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    Objectivism Is The Everyman's Philosophy

    In the universe, what you see is what you get,

    figuring it out for yourself is the way to happiness,

    and each person's independence is respected by all

  • Rand's Philosophy in Her Own Words

    • "Metaphysics: Objective Reality"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed/Wishing won’t make it so." "The universe exists independent of consciousness"
    • "Epistemology: Reason" "You can’t eat your cake and have it, too." "Thinking is man’s only basic virtue"
    • "Ethics: Self-interest" "Man is an end in himself." "Man must act for his own rational self-interest" "The purpose of morality is to teach you[...] to enjoy yourself and live"
    • "Politics: Capitalism" "Give me liberty or give me death." "If life on earth is [a man's] purpose, he has a right to live as a rational being"
  • Objectivism Online Chat

    Doesn't reality require a singular consciousness?

    Metaphysicist
    By Metaphysicist,
    The way i see it, Objectivism is not the only "true" philosophy but there are others that may be possible as well. It appears to be true that the axiom existence exists is undeniably correct. If existence did not exist, then what exactly would this mean? Nothing in reality would be different, just because we said it didn't exist. Now Rand tells the story that existence is made up of units called existents. A man is an existent who has the attribute of consciousness, which allows him to perceive (through the use of his sense organs) the existence around him. We are told also that consciousness cannot exist separately from existence, but that the reverse is possible. Consciousness is an attribute, and must be conscious of something, even if only that which it is an attribute of (i.e. "I am conscious of myself"). Rand makes the standard common sense argument that existence (from the ego's perspective) can be divided up into "self" and "other". Self is all the faculties under the jurisdiction of the ego. It is completely separate from the other. It appears to my mind that there are several philosophical possibilities at this point. The nature of existence is such that it may seem on the one hand to be composed of an infinite variety of forms, which are complete and separate from one another. But on the other hand there is a sense in which reality presents itself as a seamless whole. Existents are no more separate from existence than a drop is separate from the ocean. The many are merely particles of the One. But is this inconsistent with the facts presented by objectivism? I submit that it is not. For we realise that existence is sub-divided into existents only by the human mind, which does so out of conceptual convenience. In accordance with Rand's observations, we see that consciousness is an attribute of existence. Would not a unified, absolute reality have as its attribute a singular, unitary consciousness? Nevertheless such a conscious totality, may in the course of its evolutionary action, subjectify itself, atomise itself into a series of ego-perspectives. Like a wave storming across the ocean, these "selves" have their own separate existence while at the same time being an extension of, and ultimately caused by, the Reality of which they are a manifestation. We see Man thus as a microcosm of Existence. Man, the existent, is conscious of himself just as Reality is Conscious of Itself. I find this to be an interesting variation on the objectivist ideas, and look forward to hearty and intelligent discussion on this matter.

    Game for Objectivists....

    Old Geezer
    By Old Geezer,
    I havent played this game,,,, but the idea appeals to me Jennifer Government: NationStates is a nation simulation game. You create your own country, fashioned after your own political ideals, and care for its people. Either that or you deliberately torture them. It's really up to you.

    Favourite Ayn Rand book

    Invictus
    By Invictus,
    Which of Rand's works did you enjoy most? Of her fiction titles I enjoyed The Fountainhead above the rest. Atlas Shrugged was probably of a higher quality but it was my first experience with Rand's philosophy and I did not relate to it in the same manner as I did the books I read after having fully familiarised myself with Objectivism. With regard to her non-fiction works I definitely found Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal to be the the best, presenting an excellent moral case for capitalism. It was also interesting to read what Alan Greenspan thought before joining up with the fed's. The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution wins the award for "book that should be read by every college student".

    Prometheus Rising

    argive99
    By argive99,
    Someone who I respect recommended the book "Prometheus Rising" by Robert Anton Wilson. It was recommended for insight into behavioral patterns established during youth as well as biological/gentic influences. The ultimate goal being to change those patterns for self improvement. I read about the book on Amazon and see that it is loaded with mysticism and "alternative science" but the person who recommended it (who is not an O'ist) said to stick with it and its value will be apparent. Does anyone have knowledge of this book or its author or the "Eight Neurological circuits" of Timothy Leary that it is based on? The book seems to be offering a philosophy of mind. Thanks

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