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    Objectivism Is The Everyman's Philosophy

    In the universe, what you see is what you get,

    figuring it out for yourself is the way to happiness,

    and each person's independence is respected by all

  • Rand's Philosophy in Her Own Words

    • "Metaphysics: Objective Reality"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed/Wishing won’t make it so." "The universe exists independent of consciousness"
    • "Epistemology: Reason" "You can’t eat your cake and have it, too." "Thinking is man’s only basic virtue"
    • "Ethics: Self-interest" "Man is an end in himself." "Man must act for his own rational self-interest" "The purpose of morality is to teach you[...] to enjoy yourself and live"
    • "Politics: Capitalism" "Give me liberty or give me death." "If life on earth is [a man's] purpose, he has a right to live as a rational being"
  • Objectivism Online Chat

    Avatars

    Invictus
    By Invictus,
    Why is it that so few people at this forum have avatars? They make it a lot easier for people to distinguish between the different members, particularly for newcomers like me. I recommend everyone go to his or her profile and insert an avatar.

    Atlas Shrugged Excerpt

    Jason W
    By Jason W,
    Hey everyone, I trust most of your have read A.S., so perhaps you can help me. I'm trying to find a section where Francisco is talking to Rearden about the woman that he loves (Dagny; but Rearden doesn't know at this point). Francisco goes on about how a man should love a woman for her strengths and virtues instead of her weaknesses and vices - or something to that effect. I'm having no luck locating it in the book, and as much as I loved it, I rather not read it again just to find that section. If anyone is familiar w/ the passage and has a good idea even about the chapter, I would be extremely greatful!! Jason-

    Bein' rude to Saudi Crude

    Old Geezer
    By Old Geezer,
    Saudi Arabia has been bothering me for some time now. But having read Robert Baer's sleeping with the devil and seeing a Saudi Friend struggle night after night to find an effective way to work for his freedom, and seeing him sometimes CRYING when I inadvertantly mention some freedom I take for granted, I decided enough is enough I believe that it will be several years before we can start seeing more Oil from russia, and even then I wont be jumping for joy as the "Russian Oil" will probably be coming from those failed states known as the "stans" the same applies for Iraq, and ANWR, (even if ANWR was opened completely for drilling today, it would be several years before seeing sizeable results) I am beginning to think that I ought to use my consumer dollars to help my friend. (either by limiting my usage of fuel, patronizing a company that pours less money to the House of Saud and its terrorist subsidiaries, or financially supporting some pro reform group) can you guys poke some holes for me?

    Unprovoked attacks

    MinorityOfOne
    By MinorityOfOne,
    Just wanted to toss in my two cents about something I see happening here a lot. People, especially newcomers, often write posts offering bad arguments or ideas. That's not a capital offense; can anyone here claim they've never honestly screwed up? (If it were a capital offense, I would deserve a firing squad composed of the entire population of China for some of the nonsense I've spouted over the course of my life.) The extent to which a person's ideas differ from Objectivism does not necessarily equal the extent to which they're intellectually dishonest or lazy. From personal experience, I'd go so far as to say that there's almost no correlation: I've met plenty of people who talked the Objectivist talk, but were astoundingly irresponsible and evasive in practice. Nor does the fact that somebody might think something is compatible with Objectivism which is not imply that they are dishonest. It can often imply nothing more than that they need to do more research. It's not an easy thing, usually, to determine that somebody is being evasive. It's a pretty serious charge. I won't point any fingers, but I'd like to see people give some serious thought to whether they've been unnecessarily dismissive or rude when responding to posts. This forum isn't just a place for people to preach to the choir, to talk about things they already know or to apply Objectivist principles they've already digested to new issues. It's also a place for discussion of the Objectivist principles themselves. I'd like to think it's a place where people who don't fully understand Objectivism can come and ask questions, even offer up the conclusions they've reached for debate. But so long as people treat disagreement as dishonesty, a lot of newcomers will walk away shaking their heads, having reached no conclusions except that it's useless to talk to Objectivists.

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