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How would you be able to help? I've been asking for help about what has happened from everyone and the situation has just continually got worse.

I don't want this buried and it's blatantly obvious that they are using this against myself and other fellow Americans and using the deception to somehow involve what should be normal American citizens to do their dirty work via some sort of mass deception that they must through various highly illicit and illegal means (blinking emoji as I type this). They are literally at war with American citizens and I have been a target (blinking emoji again) ever since and have had my life destroyed by this highly illegal and extremely evil action to the point I have essentially nothing left. These people that participate in this either directly against fellow Americans or via acting on whatever lies and distortions that cause them to engage in this are simply evil slow murderers via torture of essentially every type. This was meant for our enemies not moral patriotic Americans like myself.

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Also, it was this and I got a text to go to the recruiter but they wanted a certain number which I asked about and they said it was essentially a number assigned to members of the military or I suppose veterans that I of course have never possessed. Basically, the recruitment was though one of Skinwalker Ranch's Discord channels that I volunteered to become part of the tech team for after spotting many UAP and other anomalies via their private YouTube live stream. Everything I caught on video was witnessed by many others, recorded, and put into the official record. That I found so much so quickly along with the physics I provided and things like the entity in the ridge is an advanced AGI were what lead to all of this.

It's not. It is the truth, and I'm a target of collectivist, mysticism/religious, statist/fascist/socialist/authoritarian evil that has overtaken this country on a level that should have been impossible while everyone pretends that they aren't involved, it's not happening, or weird/ false comments like Monart made. And, of course, as I was typing this on my new, but also hacked by these evil criminals, phone, I had a blinking emoji pop up for the last sentence, an eyeroll emoji and a looking down "sad" emoji pop up. I should be screenshotting all these crimes.

It is 100% true and at this point you saying this nonsense makes me believe you are in on this. It's not a "parody" nor a "joke". So I'm considering banning you. And to call someone a "believer" in an existent while pretending it's something like a non-existent like a gremlin, unicorn, or a "God" is just ridiculous.

Rejoin the moderation group? Not that there's a ton going on here like there used to be because evil is winning in society on a huge scale and people are being both implicitly and explicitly forced away from the good in all forms and being massively "passively" forced to embrace evil/collectivism/statism in every form while shunning and destroying all the good such as Objectivism.

The reason it's closed is because you are arguing against the facts of reality in a prejudiced manner without ever stating the core purpose behind it. But this isn't the place to have a second flat earth game/discussion. And yes, your argument and style is exactly the same as those that do the flat earth thing while knowing the truth and just trying to practice argumentation for the sake of argument and arbitrary skepticism contrary to the facts of reality. Stay in reality because that is what is discussed here.

To me that thread seemed to boil down to a flat earth type of thread where any rational argument or evidence was denied while looking for specific "evidence" from a conspiracy theorist even though it exists in countless forms. Again, explicitly name the exact reason honestly for the thread.

So answer this simple question and I might reopen it: what is the core purpose in your claim that Covid doesn't exist? And again if my own grandfather had survived the virus/disease that you claim doesn't exist he would have issues with this. I just find it appalling that you are denying the existence of something that took the life of one of my closest family members.

I chose a cold because it is the most common illness and is also a Corona virus. Covid has been proven to exist with extreme scientific vigor and massive perceptual evidence. I'm closing this thread.

Seriously? Why are you guys playing these silly games?

Parody? It is what is/has happening/happened. It's the truth. What do you have against this specific virus/disease over all others? Do you require explicit scientific evidence of every virus, illness, or disease regardless of the amount of evidence available before acknowledging its existence? "What I have a cold that I got from family members that had it? Regardless of how many symptoms I have I won't believe it until I see highly specific evidence of its DNA isolation!" I could see you doing this given the conversation.

I wasn't sure it was real because I had never been involved in anything like that then all the odd stuff and worse started happening and I didn't know how else to protect myself except tell family and friends. Not details of what I knew just all the odd things that kept getting worse (and there's the upside down face emoji) of course. Also how is someone supposed to know that somehow there is some strange vast underground network in virtually every area that harasses people to essentially death in the United States of America in the 21st Century until it happens to them?

So am I, and this is what I was trying to get out of you. Two years ago because I was secretly recruited to an Army ghost psy-op unit because of my involvement in Skinwalker Ranch until they discovered that I was 44 at the time with no military experience, since then my life has been made into a living hell that keeps getting worse. This is what I have never explicitly stated. They are a "secret" spy hacking unit. I wanted to get involved to protect the United States against our foreign adversaries like China, Russia, Iran, and N. Korea instead I found out that they also target American citizens like myself and destroy their lives in every possible manner. Saying this "publicly" will likely make things worse but already essentially every value (spiritual and material) has been taken or destroyed, my ability to work, live, you name it, and now a 32 year old non-cancerous tumor has returned to my ear that I had to removed at 14, I'm now essentially homeless (this new phone is hacked too and they do things like put smilies as I'm writing these horrible things or they will use an upside down emoji alot because of the altruistic inverted immorality type stuff subtly implying that rational egoism and all of Objectivism is actually the "inverted" ideas and ideals). The list goes on in every form of harassment, destruction etc on an unimaginable scale. And the whole time everyone tries to pretend that I'm "crazy". To destroy a moral American's life just for this reason is what is actually crazy, immoral, and extremely anti-American of them.

Not true, again I studied the science of mRNA vaccines. It's not lying I just keep getting dragged into it while trying to moderate a thread that is arbitrary.

Reason and investigation of the facts. Also, the context that my grandfather had just died of it a couple months before and to protect my mom who I was staying with at the time who has COPD. Just because there is a standard time for testing doesn't mean in context of a disease that nobody has natural immunity to that individuals such as myself can't take vaccines or medical drugs that have not went through the full process of testing outside of that context as it would be a potential sacrifice of one's life to do otherwise. It would be similar to someone with cancer taking an experimental treatment. Also, why is any of this important as it's a personal choice. I don't even fully understand the full purpose of this entire thread about denying the existence of a disease where essentially every fact of evidence and perception proves the existence of while no evidence exists that shows that it doesn't. It's just arbitrary although I have some ideas why someone would claim this against the overwhelming facts of reality. This is just a very strange discussion.

No, that would be secondhanded, I did it to prevent myself from getting Covid and studied mRNA vaccines before taking the vaccines. This is ridiculous and I'm not taking part in this strange discussion anymore and will read to moderate it against arbitrary conspiracy theories and from those seeking to ignore reason, evidence, and proper epistemology.

I didn't make that exact claim. I was using that as an example that risks do exist that aren't always known although that was a situation where they didn't do the length clinical trials normally done and I knew that, accepted the additional risk in favor of the benefits outweighing the risk. And yes I was nervous and also believe that I had an initial (possibly slight allergic reaction) to that injection.

@necrovore That would mean those people would have to had advanced knowledge years prior to the pandemic of the existence of the covid virus which is a big leap implying a planned conspiracy when it is much more likely that it was simply a coincidence involving passive attacks from the Left on the religious Right. While there likely are occasional side effects of childhood vaccines (like watching a commercial for any medicine or vaccine shows in detail) we've essentially all had them and they have been scientifically proven to be extremely rare with the benefits outweighing the slight risk. Obviously, that doesn't imply forced vaccinations are moral or should be legal outside of maybe an extremely lethal and highly contagious novel disease, covid doesn't qualify, although I personally got the vaccine the week it was allowed. (J&J which to prove the above point of risk was soon taken off the market due to the blood clot risk). The main principle involves the fact that the government should not be involved in education as it should be private or funded via charity as like most things current governments are improperly involved in when their only valid jobs are the protection of individual rights.

How were mRNA vaccines against the covid virus created and developed if the DNA sequence of the virus was never "purified and isolated" (concepts that do not apply to DNA sequencing btw), or are they also non-existent conspiracies?

Awesome, you are likely quite older than myself then at 46 unless you were lucky to have had somehow found Miss Rand at a very young age or had family that taught you the correct way. I agree that the dogmatism of any religion is a very large negative. Obviously every idea from various religions have some truth to them such as the "commandment" (in scare quotes because as we both know a moral commandment is a contradiction in terms since morality by its very nature istherationallychosen) against murder. Also, I quite enjoyed the book of Tau from the Asian philosophy, that said each obviously have major flaws, most involve primacy of consciousness, aren't systematized, are filled with contradictions, endorse sacrifice (the most blatantly evil idea in the history of Man), etc.

Just to add to the above, my grandparents on my Dad's side who took me to church from toddler age until I made my own decision to stop going at about 9 or so where originally from Arkansas and were Southern Baptists who took me to Baptist churches, but right away at 4, 5, 6 years of age I immediately had what I now know were extreme moral issues with the idea of a being/God requiring sacrifices, first in animals and then of actual people (which even then I knew made zero sense whatsoever and was evil). Then there were all the contradictions such as a "trinity" that is one, magical stuff like people walking on water, being magically turned to salt, being swallowed by whales and living, dying and magically coming back from the dead, etc. Things that are impossible and people just randomly believing it all without even thinking or demanding proof in any manner. Then there was the way people acted there that literally scared the crap out of me, made no sense, or was boring to the point I'd just fall asleep. Kids my age being rewarded for randomly citing the books of the Bible at like age 6 when the assignment was actually to cite a specific assigned verse in the children's class while acting like mindless zombies, being in the main service with my Grandparents and people randomly yelling out hallelujah like crazy lunatics, the list could go on and on. It was just a scary, contradictory, nonsensical experience at nearly all times. The singing and things like listening to stories that even then I knew were just myths was OK but overall I considered it an extremely negative experience and since the purpose of it all was to stop rational thought and encourage conformity in outlandish ideas that would get people sent properly to a psychiatrist for if they claimed them in the present I quickly realized that it was a form of child abuse to continue in any manner past about 8 or 9.

This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any of that even remotely and this about the primacy of existence not consciousness in even the remotest manner. Consciousness is a result of existents as I described in detail. Also, the first objective proof of the existence of a multiverse was the double slit experiment and there has been countless more experiments and technology including the creation of quantum computers that are further evidence. While I have a layman's knowledge of some Indian religion and most others through history the presentation and science is not related in any manner to any of this, their accidental similarities in some incidences aside. Also, I'm an American with absolutely no Indian ancestry (although I do have Native American Indian ancestry from both sides of my family). But in the decade leading up to finding the philosophy that fit my personal views, opinions, and knowledge best in Objectivism before 9/11 I did study to some degree most of the world's religions (while of course remaining an Atheist because of each containing massive contradictions contrary to reality and the Law of non-contradition even if some occasionally have ideas that contain some degree of truth however tainted. The Tao of Physics is an example. ) and then studying the major philosophies of the world throughout history before finding Objectivism which represents the truth about reality and man's nature essentially perfectly.

Great post. One thing to add is that the duality in ER=EPR and r=1/r from string theory combined with every "point" in a being a vibration of the standard 4 dimensions, their inverse Calabi-Yau dimensions and a fractional phi dimension takes care of the issues with quantum manipulation while allowing for "particles" to exist with all the known wave features and not causing any of the contradictions normally associated with "wave/particle" "duality". Essentially, all the physics happens on the local universe's event horizons and our universe is a multidimensional holographic projection of the physics with each Plank area also being an entagled event horizon with its own inverse universe. The backaction of the inverse which contains the supersymmetric sparticles of "dark matter" which will never be "found" in our "universe" but do exist in that sense combined with our universe's parent blackhole absorbing matter and energy from its parent universe is what causes accelerated "expansion" of our own universe. Imagine a finite but unbound number of sets of "Russian dolls 🪆" (and inverse Russian dolls) with all of the sets a function of Planks constant and phi differences between each unbound sets and then imagine this unbound number of sets all superimposed and entagled and interacting as a multidimensional trampoline "brane" to some degree but to the largest interaction amount with the event horizons of r and 1/r in Plank units and you will have a very good idea of the Final and Complete Theory of Physics/Everything. It's entagled and superimposed blackholes (and their "inverses" for supersymmetrical reasons) in an eternal Plank time of a finite but unbound number of multiverses of all possible (possible by the laws of Quantum Gravity and the Law of Identity) multiverses with each slight different quantum diorama "universe" existing such that a complete eternal and non-contradictory Universe can and must exist "all the way down".