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SpookyKitty

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  1. Israel is a country whose leaders are either A) So incredibly stupid, short sighted, dementia brained, and insane that they would fund a radical Islamist group to overthrow a secular government and then act surprised when the Islamist group does Islamist things or b) So evil that they did all that on purpose.
  2. Full video of South Africa's case against Israel at the ICJ:
  3. You kept pining for my attention, miserably, in post after post and now you tell me to go away? What, you don't like it when someone argues in bad faith? You now understand why I don't talk to you. I'm glad that this now goes both ways.
  4. How could I answer your question if I don't know what the question is asking due to not knowing what you mean to ask?
  5. I can't answer your question if I don't know what you mean by "a". Please clarify.
  6. I don't do charity and I don't owe you anything.
  7. That you are fully behind the idea of ethnic cleansing is all I need to hear to know what kind of scum you are. Goodbye.
  8. The full text of South Africa's application to the ICJ is now available: https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20231228-app-01-00-en.pdf It is 84 pages of documentation that details the endless list of abuses that Palestinians have been forced to endure by Israel, and how those abuses constitute genocide. The important stuff begins around page 17. The really important stuff, however, evidence of specific intent for genocide, begins on page 59 and I will reproduce some of it here:
  9. Ben-Gvir calls for Gaza to be ethnically cleansed.
  10. South Africa has filed a genocide case against Israel at the ICJ. https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/middleeast/south-africa-icj-israel-genocide-intl/index.html
  11. Things can be done on purpose and unsystematically, but I would also argue that using an organized military and a plan which involved corralling the Palestinian population into the south of Gaza through a relentless bombing campaign of the north and then proceeding to bomb the very place they claimed would be safe for civilians is pretty systematic. Indeed.
  12. 1) Where are you getting this from? 2) To prove intent requires that you prove something about the state of mind of another person, which, in this case, means proving that they are seeking the physical destruction of a group in whole or in part. It does not require you to prove that they are doing it well.
  13. Ok... But what's your point? Mass killing is actually insufficient to prove genocide. One must also prove that there is a "special intent", on the part of the perpetrators of the mass killing, to eradicate a people group as such. That the perpetrators are "merely" racist would be insufficient.
  14. The hate is ultimately rooted in bad philosophy. Zionists and their supporters both here and elsewhere automatically assume that anyone who criticizes Israel's atrocities must be some kind of Hamas stooge and that Hamas' war crimes somehow justify Israel's. They don't. Zionism and Islamism are not really opposed to each other. They are in a symbiotic relationship of self-destruction. But so many are willfully blind to Israel's crimes just because they look and sound like us.
  15. The word "systematic" does not appear anywhere in the UN genocide convention. Neither systematicity nor organization is a requirement for something to qualify as a genocide. Most genocides are very stochastic and disorganized efforts. Only very few, such as the Holocaust, are of a systematic and well organized nature. The reason that Vietnam does not qualify as genocide, although the US certainly committed war crimes there, is because there was no special intent by any part of US leadership to destroy the Vietnamese people as such. Here is what the IDF says happened that day: Source: https://apnews.com/article/israel-hostages-gaza-hamas-war-52fa9628e6284cdad6d7f7db6cc30742 So given that Israeli soldiers are ordered to "shoot anything that moves", and given that these types of incidents are almost never punished, I think it's safe to say that killing surrendering civilians is the de facto IDF policy. I wish that were true.
  16. The process described in that post is not the definition of genocide and these steps are not required to happen for it to be a genocide. This is simply a description of how genocides typically occur and explains why it is not true that every Palestinian would be killed all at once or even quickly. I provided the definition of genocide under international law and presented evidence about how Israel's actions in Gaza fit them in previous posts. Hunting down the third victim and then killing him after killing the first two, even though it was absolutely clear that none of them were a threat and were surrendering, is not incompetence by any stretch of the imagination. Oh it absolutely does. The video goes into great detail about how Likud, Israel's biggest party, Netanyahu's party, cooperates with these lunatics, and also how many of these Messianics were incorporated into and white-washed by Likud. Is anyone here going to sit there and seriously tell me that 87% of the Knesset cannot form a government against the ABSOLUTELY INSANE 13%? If Israel were a sane country, absolutely none of the other parties would ever be caught dead in a government with these people. If, in any European country, a major party formed a government with Nazis, we would rightly denounce the entire government as Nazis. The truth of the matter is that ultra-religious beliefs are fully mainstream in Israeli society, and the only difference between Likud and the ultra-religious is that they are saying all the quiet parts out loud.
  17. For what purpose? That was in response to AlexL's ridiculous claim that no genocide occurred because not everyone was immediately killed. I do not need to show evidence of all the other steps when we are clearly already at the extermination phase. Holocaust scholar Raz Segal has called Israel's attack on Gaza a "textbook case of genocide": Source: https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide What??? This is not an "error". This is systematic and has been going on for a long time. The only thing unusual about this case is that it happened to Israelis instead of Palestinians. Please watch the whole lecture before commenting about it. This is a strawman argument. I recognize the fact that in any large enough group of people you're gonna find some crazies, but this goes way beyond that.
  18. No, my view is that STATE of Israel is evil because its ruling parties tolerate, endorse, and protect these insane extremists by shielding them from prosecution for their terroristic crimes and do not condemn or repudiate them. Watch the entire lecture before responding to me on this topic, because I know you sure as hell didn't watch the entire 90 minute lecture in less than 30 minutes. You're clearly all out of arguments. All you have left is racist memes and head-in-the-sand denialism. We're done speaking.
  19. If anyone here is still misinformed enough to believe that Israel is anything but an almost indescribably evil, racist, genocidal lunatic state led by twisted, sick men who promulgate the most anti-man, anti-western ideologies imaginable, then watch this lecture by Israeli investigative journalist David Sheen wherein he describes the Israeli far-right "Messianic" movement and its connections to the Israeli government. He first talks about the beliefs of the religious far-right rabbis at Israel's top military academy. The religious far-right is fully in the mainstream of Israeli society. They constitute the second largest group in the Knesset. Remember that these people are TO THE LEFT of the messianic movement. The views of the religious far right are already so extreme that I cannot even begin to comprehend the sheer level of madness that is required to believe them. One of the rabbis wants to bring back slavery. Another describes his own ideology as explicitly anti-man and claims that Western values are the "true" holocaust. A third one describes Hitler as "the most moral person possible". This is the Israeli MAINSTREAM. THIS GARBAGE IS WHAT IDF OFFICERS ARE TAUGHT. But The Messianics are somehow even more extreme than this. How? How? It's so crazy it cannot be believed. Watch this video to fully understand what we are dealing with here and how this affects American politics:
  20. I honestly don't know since I haven't really looked into those in any detail.
  21. But I did. Did you not read my post? Here it is again: Your only response to this was that Israel's strikes against civilian might have been legitimate and that I would need special access to certain kinds of knowledge that I could not have in order to make the determination that Israel's strikes against Gaza are indiscriminate. I dismantled any such notions in my previous post. Thus far, you have not presented any counterargument to my claim, you're just claiming that my explanation doesn't exist when it is clearly in front of you. By the way, here is the source for my claims about international law: https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/09/questions-and-answers-october-2023-hostilities-between-israel-and-palestinian-armed
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