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Mike Joyous

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  1. But my dear Kitty, how could you know your first idea was false except by using your senses? The first time you made the sensible conclusion that the sun revolved around the earth. Then with other sense data, you changed your mind, by integrating, say, your first percepts with satellite videos. Your first percepts were still true, but now your thoughts were taking into account other percepts, also true. Does that clarify, O Beloved Spook? Mike
  2. Hi William I think our own beloved kitty has a point! Does 1+1=3? No matter the means, if the computer arrives at an error, it has an error (poor thing). Maybe the data entry was wrong. Maybe it skipped a gear. Who knows?
  3. Dear Spooky Kitty, do you really believe any of this stuff--as in 'cross my heart and hope to die if it be proved that I did lie? ' Tell me, how many times today did your senses fool you? Yesterday? Tomorrow? Somehow, except in college dorm arguments, I don't remember any. Mike
  4. Rand has addressed this in the basic principles of objectivism course originally created by Nathaniel Branden. There was an article about this issue also in the Objectivist Newsletter. The senses are the basis of all knowledge. They can't "fool" you because reality is inherently stable. A chair does not disappear when you don't löök at it. A chair does not turn into a bird when you are not there. The senses can provide extra information about reality, as when a stick seems to bend when part of it is in water. The senses are providing extra information about light waves, but that extra info does not contradict one's earlier perception of the stick outside of water--which looks the same as it always does in that context of "not being in water. "
  5. Starting an Objectivist community group in So Cal

    I would like to attend, but I'm in Sherman Oaks and my poor car has been victimized by a dishonest mechanic.
  6. Hi Szalapski:) First off, I am Mike. Howdee:) To get to your thought, I have this fantasy of eating a thousand dönuts, my stomach expanding, but with a deep feeling of content. Ah, joy! Friend, do you see the difference between my joyous fantasy and the reality of how I would feel in that situation? This is not an issue of morality, Szalapski. Morality is about being as conscious as you can be at any moment. With respect to eating, your conundrum is that you have been listening way töö much to the "words" of others, and way töö little to the wisdom of your own body. Instead of worrying about eating töö many dönuts, try closing your eyes and focusing on the sensation of the donut as it goes down your throat and how your hunger changes as it enters your stomach. Your body has a natural regulatory mechanism that will prevent serious overeating most of the time--if you choose to focus on it! If you do overeat, most of the time you will undereat in the future! Mike
  7. Hi oh thou Spooky Kitty How do you know when your senses are fooling you? If you don't have something outside of you that you know is real, if your senses are always fooling you (like devilishly inventive kids), how did you ever learn they were fooling you in the first place? Mike
  8. Stumbling in

    Hi:) As a personal moral code, I embrace the virtues described by Nathaniel Branden in his "Six Pillars of Self-Esteem. " The hardest ones for me are self-acceptance, self-responsibility, and acting upon my best thoughts. How about you?
  9. Objectivism and me

    Hi Zack, I like you. I have never been arrested but I empathize with that part of you that is searching. Nowadays I work as a data gatherer. I would love to create a home business, but I get tired and sleepy when it is time to begin. I suspect I am scared of using my mind:( Mike