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Doug Morris

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  1. So we have Turley's opinion on the Whitmer case. So far no one has provided any solid facts, nor any of the links I have requested to back up their claims. On the Whitmer kidnapping, Wikipedia lists 14 defendants, of whom 5 were found guilty by a jury, 3 pleaded guilty, 2 were acquitted, and 4 had their trials pending. Suddenly there seems to be a lot of talk about the relatively minor topic of the Whitmer kidnapping and no response to my requests for evidence or documentation relating to the stolen election claim.
  2. People who do a good enough job of compartmentalizing their inconsistencies may be able to limit the spread. Christianity has had a lot of practice doing this. Trump and his supporters aren't doing it. A big part of Trump's irrationality is a desperate search for personal reassurance. A big part of his supporters' irrationality amounts to Trump worship.
  3. Why should I? Promotions, transfers, and changes of employer are normal. What evidence is there to support the defense claims?
  4. Or at least, so the defense lawyers claimed. What evidence is there for this?
  5. If everything you've said is true, her death was very tragic. But such things cab happen in such an insurrection (or riot", if you prefer).
  6. Wasn't she shot trying to climb into the legislative chamber? That would surely look like an attempt at aggression on her part, even if that was not her intent.
  7. That's an example of the kind of falsehood that underlies a dictatorship. I was referring to irrationality spreading witihin the irrational person, from issue to issue, not claiming that it would spread from person to person. Why didn't you pay more attention to which statement of yours I was answering?
  8. Once someone becomes irrational, the irrationality spreads. Please give evidence that the Democrats staged the Governor Whitmer kidnapping. Is that the number of votes, cast and accepted, exceeded the number of registered voters? By enough to affect the result in that state? Please give specifics, including which counties in which states. No, it was not. A lot of people died from it. Please give specifics, including which states and specific vote counts. So there was early voting and absentee voting. Probably more than usual because of the pandemic, the lockdowns, and the special efforts to let people vote anyway. So what? Specifics, please. Didn't Trump start insisting the election would be stolen even before it took place? Can you link to documentation?
  9. You seem to be admitting the insurrectionists, or "rioters" as you would have it, were irrational.
  10. 1. False. 2 False. 3. Due to attempts to deal with the pandemic and the lock downs, not to any fraud. 4. How many? 5. False. 6. How much? 7. The result of people jumping to conclusions about things they didn't understand, because they badly wanted to believe Trump's lies. 8. Any at all?
  11. There is plenty of evidence that Trump and his supporters are very irrational.
  12. The Democrats' argument is that some voters have a hard time getting ID's. How much such fraud is there for the ID requirement to prevent? If this is like the Georgia case, you have it backwards. Can you give an example? Can you provide links to some of these judgments? There were no legitimate grounds for suspecting fraud.
  13. What makes you so sure Trump and his supporters would have been that rational?
  14. Are there any grounds you wish me to evaluate?
  15. Please explain each of these statements.
  16. This was a silly post. I tried to present a more reasonable approach to these issues. Unfortunately, my first attempt paralleled this silly post too closely, giving it unfortunate characteristics that misled or confused some people as to what I was trying to say. I certainly was not trying to argue ad hominem. I hope the following makes clearer what I was trying to say. 1. It is perfectly legitimate to be concerned about vulnerabilities in our election system, especially when this is approached in the spirit of looking for ways to make that system more robust. I am not objecting to this. As far as I know, no reasonable person is objecting. 2. Our system of democratic elections and orderly transfers of power is an essential part of the protections we have for the extent to which we have freedom and respect for our rights. If this system becomes non-functional, we will be left with a contest of physical force to determine who comes to power. Whoever wins this contest, having used force to get power, will probably use force to keep it, and we will have a dictatorship. Therefore, anyone who acts to threaten, damage, or undermine this system of democratic elections and orderly transfers of power is acting as an enemy of freedom and individual rights, whether or not that is their intention. This applies to the insurrectionists at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. It applies to anyone who harasses, defames, or threatens poll workers for doing their jobs. It applies to anyone who increases the power of politicians to tamper with elections. And it applies to anyone who encourages or incites such actions, Donald Trump in particular. 3. There are no legitimate grounds for saying the 2020 election was stolen. We would not even be discussing this if Trump had not lied and said the election was stolen when he knew perfectly well it wasn't. We also would not be discussing this if there weren't so many people so willing to believe Trump's lies.
  17. I was substituting a more reasonable statement for your silliness. I did not say, and did not mean to imply, that this was a good way to be arguing the issue.
  18. I was not trying to shove a cake into other people's mouths. I was resisting your attempt to shove a cake into other people's mouths.
  19. I do not condone censorship. I agree with Ayn Rand that the way to fight bad ideas is with better ideas. It may also be helpful to shine some light on where statements are coming from. It is definitely a good idea to teach people to view statements with caution and to recognize signs that a statement should be viewed with suspicion,
  20. I said it would be closer to the point. I did not say it was the point.
  21. It would be closer to the point to say that anyone who thinks the 2020 election was actually stolen is either paranoid and/or emotion-guided to the point of becoming gullible and of failing to practice respect for reason or standards of evidence and/or a conspiracy theorist and/or a white supremacist, and that anyone who takes part in insurrections like the one on January 6, 2021 at the U.S. Capitol, or who smears, harasses, or threatens poll workers for doing their job, or who increases the power of politicians over elections, is a danger to our democracy.
  22. I have never said or believed that the 2016 election was illegitimate. I have always accepted that election as being valid. I don't know to what extent Russian disinformation affected the election. Even if it tipped the balance, this is not grounds for invalidating the election. However, it is important to guard against disinformation, whether it concerns an election, a pandemic, or anything else. Disinformation is not the same as collusion.
  23. Who says this? Collusion with the Russians is not the same as hacking.
  24. I don't know what was in Putin's mind. He does not seem very rational. He may have focused too much on how easy it was the first time.
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