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Why not just settle for winding these people for being bin-rakers. Freeganism is just intellectualized bin-raking in the same way that Socialism is intellectualized theft.

You're right. Castro has all the essentials and he has all the celebrity supporters as well.

When I was at school, people would wind you up by saying, 'Have you ever been caught bin raking?'. 'No'. 'You must be really good at it then.' I saw this on the news ages ago and now it's here again. http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=2299422005 Rubbish meals a gourmet treat for freegan diners RICHARD LUSCOMBE Key points • Activists protests against over-consumption in US by getting food from bins • 'Dumpster diving' grows in US since report claims 50% of food not eaten • 'Freegans' celebrate Thanksgiving with other peoples' thrown-out food Key quote "People have this image of looking into a dumpster and seeing slimy garbage, but that's just not the case. At the same time, food poisoning is no joke, so you have to be careful" - Dr Michael Greger, director of public health and animal agriculture at US Humane Society Story in full RIFLING through a rubbish bin in search of a scrap to eat used to be the preserve of tramps, but now a group of anti-capitalism activists in the United States have turned it into a form of protest - and an unconventional way of filling their plates with the finest-quality fare. In sharp contrast to yesterday's Thanksgiving Day celebrations in the US, where copious amounts of turkey and pumpkin pie were consumed across the nation, the aim of the self-styled "freegan" movement - an amalgamation of the words free and vegan - is to highlight the profligacy of today's society, in which up to half of the food in the US goes to waste. And the gourmet foods they collect while digging through the dustbins and rubbish skips of some of New York's finest supermarkets, restaurants and stores are a bonus. On the menu at one recent freegan dinner party at an upmarket Greenwich Village apartment was eggplant (aubergine) parmesan with a salad of mixed greens and avocado dressing, and hors d'oeuvres of smoked mozzarella and crackers. "We find more food than we could ever possibly eat," said Adam Weissman, whose freegan.info website features a citywide and state-by-state "dumpster directory", containing tips on where to find some of the best throwaways. Among their favourite foraging sites in New Jersey, for example, is the Giant Gourmet Farmers Market in the city of Hackensack, a veritable goldmine for freegans, who can find "insane quantities" of fresh fish, tropical fruits and exotic vegetables, including figs, papayas, apricots, corn on the cobs and sweet peppers. The directory notes that two of the market's skips are always full of cardboard which, it suggests, could be valuable material for "all your protest signs", but urges freegans to watch out for the local police. "Hackensack cops can be a pain," one veteran freegan divulges. "I once had a cop search me, call in reinforcements, question me and stick his flashlight in dumpster garbage bags. He got hummus all over it - it was pretty funny," Meanwhile, in the city of Teaneck, New Jersey, so-called dumpster divers can find anything from fresh bread, doughnuts, muffins, vegetable dumplings, containers of home-made potato soup, sushi - and even the day's newspapers to browse while tucking into their free dinner. Vegans avoid anything derived from animal sources, including dairy food, and any products tested on animals. Freegans say they take that a step further by employing alternative strategies for living, based on non-participation in the conventional economy and minimal consumption of resources. Mr Weissman's website offers "trash- picking tutorials", a 22-minute instructional video, health and safety advice and a picture gallery of some of the richest pickings found by activists. Dumpster diving is flourishing, particularly since the publication last year of a ten-year study led by Professor Timothy Jones, at the University of Arizona, highlighting America's throwaway society. He found that 40 to 50 per cent of food in the US never gets eaten, and that manufacturers lose tens of billions of dollars through inefficient production methods. A 1997 US Department of Agriculture study put the loss at 27 per cent of total US food production, or 96 billion pounds of food. "The number one problem is that Americans have lost touch with what food is for," Prof Jones said. "We have lost touch with the processes that bring it to the table, and we don't notice the inefficiency." While there are concerns that digging in rubbish bins for food is not particularly healthy, some experts say the practice can be perfectly safe as long as certain guidelines are followed. A number of safety tips from Dr Michael Greger, the director of public health and animal agriculture at the Humane Society of the US, appear on the freegan website. "People have this image of looking into a dumpster and seeing slimy garbage, but that's just not the case," Dr Greger said. "At the same time, food poisoning is no joke, so you have to be careful." Unopened packaged foods can usually be eaten safely for several days after the sell-by date, he said. Foods to avoid include meat and seafood, eggs, dairy, sprouts, cut melon and unpasteurised fruit juice, which can be susceptible to bacteria. Mould can be scraped or cut from foods that are hard or firm, and canned goods are normally OK unless they are "bulging or oozing". Yesterday's Thanksgiving holiday gave freegans the perfect opportunity to highlight what Mr Weissman called "a celebration of excess". More than 40 million turkeys were eaten nationwide as families gathered for their traditional Thanksgiving meals. Urban foraging is not restricted to discarded food. Freegans rifle other people's waste for books, toiletries, CDs, toys and even kitchen appliances. Just about any consumer good can be found by rummaging, the group says, and by doing so activists "curtail garbage and pollution and lessen the overall volume in the waste-stream". Such goods are often exchanged at "Really, Really Free Markets", similar to car-boot sales, in which people bring items to swap with each other and in which no money is exchanged. Freegans buy only second-hand goods and therefore avoid putting money into any new production.

I enjoyed the movie and they did a good job of condensing the book, however: Spoiler They would have done better not have the third man in the sequence at the start and they shouldn't have made him appear at the quidditch world cup. That would have kept the twist in the book in tact. It was miles better than the Prisoner of Azkaban as they ruined the twist in that one.

How so? And why does Objectivism not have it's roots in Aristotle, if anyone?

Light weights to break yourself in and work out how strong you currently are and work up from there. If you do want to take up the challenge, tell me privately.

Why not take up Mike Mentzer's heavy duty challenge? It only neeour of training per week!

Try this link: http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=20131 "As Paul Belien, writing from Brussels this weekend, observed: "It is not anger that is driving the insurgents to take it out on the secularized welfare states of Old Europe. It is hatred. Hatred caused not by injustice suffered, but stemming from a sense of superiority. The 'youths' do not blame the French, they despise them." As Mr. Belien reports, look what a typical radical Muslim leader, Dyab Abou Jahjah, the leader of the Brussels-based Arab European League, says: "We reject integration when it leads to assimilation. I don't believe in a host country. We are at home here and whatever we consider our culture to be also belongs to our chosen country. I'm in my country, not the country of the Westerners." Or consider the statement of a German radical Islamist that I recounted in my book (based on a National Public Radio news-story broadcast): "Germany is an Islamic country. Islam is in the home, in schools. Germans will be outnumbered. We [Muslims] will say what we want. We'll live how we want. It's outrageous that Germans demand we speak their language. Our children will have our language, our laws, our culture" (The West's Last Chance, page 75). "

Perceived is the correct term. We are dealing with a profound mysticism and a primcay-of-consciousness metaphysics.

Correction. Radical Islam ingrained in the rioter's psyche plays a very important role in the marginalization of a whole segment of the french population. Wonder how many of them don't speak French? Maybe the native French don't like them for good reasons. Maybe a lot of them are not just unemployed but unemployable. No. It can't. State your terms and premises. What are you in favour of and why? I think the problem is one of ideas. In this case, the ideas of radical Islam.

I think you'll find that the bible was published before the 19th century.

I wouldn't waste too much time with this guy. He is an idiot. Do not play whack-a-mole with irrationalists. The posts putting the boot in about budget deficits are the best. Precisely how capitalism leads to huge budget deficits, I do not know nor do I understand how Objectivism leads to Bush's Christianity. I've gone on as Jethro's Flute.

Not a bad article and the honourable mentions were good as well, except for 'The Origin of the Species'. Grrr!!!!!!

As well as that, do not waste your time with a person you know to be an idiot. After all, what does that say about you if you do? BTW, Inspector, how often does that happen here? Commie: 93 pages of Tax! Smash! Loot! Rape! Pillage! Kill! plus 184 screeds of Marxism....... Objectivist: A patient point-by-point rebuttal of the previous load of drivel. This cycle is then repeated, without editing the post, until each post is the length of LOTR. I've seen it here, at capitalist paradise and at capmag and it drives me mental.

1) Buy yourself a copy of 'Socialism' by Ludwig Von Mises which demonstrates that all forms of socialism make economic calculation impossible. 2) Point out that Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and National Socialist Germany laid waste to entire continents between them. 3) Knock it on the head. There is nothing to be gained by debating with emotionalists. There has never been a rational proof of socialism. I've been there with the 'whack-a-mole' experience and it is soul-destroying, at least, when you're not the moderator on a board and the mod doesn't ban the cretin. p.s. stop the swearing.

Explain this further, please.

How about Hammer Horror star Ingrid Pitt, in her heyday. SJ reminds me of her.

And try this little gem: http://www.mises.org/story/1123 "The crucial political question concerned the direction the country would take in the future--pushing headlong into the welfare-warfare state or returning to founding principles--just as the country faced this same question in 1989 at the end of the Cold War. In 1948, the key domestic question concerned the uses of federal power for purposes of social planning and redistribution. On the international front, the Marshall Plan had already been passed, shocking many in both parties who had a principled opposition to foreign aid and international management on this scale. And Truman and his advisers were already embroiling the US in a Cold War against Russia, a government that had been a close US ally only a few years earlier. " Supposed capitalist supporters berating a US president for being too tough on Russia, under Stalin? More epistemological chaos: http://www.mises.org/story/1916 "It's not always easy being a free-market thinker and a Catholic. On the one hand, you have centuries of economic thought going for you — a rich tradition of scholarship starting largely with Aquinas and culminating in Leo XIII's condemnation of socialism in the 1870s. But on the other, you have several authoritative papal documents published since then that endorse various aspects of the modern welfare state, as part of a developing "Catholic social teaching." You also have modern Bishops allying themselves with a huge range of statist causes, and variously claiming that all the faithful should back wealth redistribution and government paternalism. What should you do?" Be an atheist and an Objectivist!

This is what you are up against with Libertarians: http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=19727 The Right’s Left Turn By Jacob Laksin FrontPageMagazine.com | October 5, 2005 In late September, as throngs of placard-wielding protestors were descending on the nation’s capital, Lew Rockwell, the nominally libertarian proprietor of the website LewRockwell.com, was holding forth at an anti-war rally convened by the far-left Alabama Peace and Justice Coalition (APJC). That the APJC’s rallying cry – “Spend money for human needs, not war!” – was of questionable accordance with principled libertarianism’s aversion to government largesse, didn’t seem to phase Rockwell, who joined a roster of speakers with an altogether different view about the proper role of the federal government. . . . [Edited to remove text of entire article. Posting entire articles violates forum rules. If there are different brief passages you would like to highlight, please let me know and we can get those in here. Matt]

As well as the gorgeous Shakira, I'd like to nominate another couple of beauties who are also great singers: Tarja Turunen from Nightwish and Sharon Den Adel from Within Temptation.

I nominate David Lee Roth as Van Halen ruled with him and suck without him. (I love that emoticon).

Not in the case of Savatage and Fates Warning where snippets are free.

How do you get that 'yarr' icon? I only get this one.

Try 80's stuff by Savatage, Queensryche and Fates Warning.

Couple of Bond scenes: Dr No's entry in the movie of the same name. and Bond "Do you expect me to talk, Goldfinger?" Goldfinger " No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die."