DanK

Thank you all so much! To Brian, thank you for helping me see the connection between matter and motion. Once I caught that I understood how I was asking the same question whether it was about matter or motion. To BlueCherry, thanks for the link to NoodleFood. The two podcasts were great and I've bookmarked the site so I can check out their other stuff. PS. on their main page the Simon's Cat 'The Fly' video made my day. To Seeker, you pointed out the fallacy of composition, thank you. To TheEgoist & Castle, my friend is a leader in Campus Crusade for Christ at UF, so I don't expect to change his mind. I view my theology conversations with him as good practice for thinking about and discussing these ideas with other people. The most attractive woman I've met in my life is a life-long, devout Mormon and it breaks my heart that she's associated with them and that I don't believe I have the ability to help her. (I'm not sure she'd even want the help.) Nevertheless, thank you all for the help and have a great day!

Hi everyone, This is my first attempt at a thread/post so if I've placed it in the wrong section or this has been discussed elsewhere please correct me. A close friend of mine is an evangelical christian and we like to argue. A few weeks ago he brought up the first cause argument and I was able to corner him. His argument: -All things are created -The universe was created -god created the universe I responded by saying if god can be eternal why can't the universe? He couldn't answer the question and quickly changed the topic, but I asked myself a follow-up question on his behalf. If the universe is eternal, what set everything into motion? I may be confusing the first cause argument, which I thought only dealt with matter, or I may be thinking of some other version of it, nevertheless I've come to you all for help. Is this the first cause argument, a version of it, or something different? If the universe is eternal, is motion eternal too or was there a first cause? Thanks and have a great day!