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  1. welcome to the forums manav...... speaking of rock music........i too have some doubts...... i am a big fan of 'pink floyd' and love their music, but i dont at all like the lyrics.... is this some kind of a dichotomy, like the soul-body dichotomy?
  2. i dumped that book and bought a legitimate A.S. ........ i too would like to be a part of such a club
  3. so when are coming eran.......btw how did fair on the little game of yours in my case? i have suspiscion oaktree, that you are an indian .......is that so??
  4. not many in the race....... i will grab the opportunity........ my bidding is based on the contributions i am soon going to make to the aesthetics forum....some original ideas of mine....... well, to make a stronger case ,i will divulge some details---i will present you all an artform that i have created and its relation to me being a student of objectivism. also an active participation ,mainly asking questions, is all i can promise for now......
  5. galt


    i am flabbergasted........you have only paraphrased me.....so what are the 'some minor points' on which you disagree.........
  6. eran,satsriakal is a salutation. i had an inkling that 'satsriakal' has got something to do with god,though wasnt sure of it........ i dont have many sikh freinds btw none of my ancestors was a warrior(to my knowledge) hey oaktree your knowledge of india is impressive .........but my conclusions were based on my experience with the kabadiwala freind of mine........because he doesnt keep many pirated books(only the more popular ones)......
  7. thanks everyone. ... ... satsriakal bigbangsingh......i am not a sikh.......i am a rajput
  8. hi....rana here, i am abhishek singh rana .....among our peers to be on last name basis is considered as a hint of closeness. the story of my introduction to objectivism is an ironically unusual one. the guy who suggested A.S. to me is a kabadiwala.......a kabadiwala is a guy who purchases old newspapers and sells these to paper mills for recycling, he keeps the chance books and sells these at low prices. this kabadiwala freind of mine also keeps the pirated versions of certain popular novels. so it was reading from a pirated A.S. that i learned the basics of objectivism. i should mention here that i have already made amends for this 'theft' of mine. the other day someone was asking Omkar Ghate on whether objectivism is getting popular in india (or something to that effect) ......the fact that they have started pirating A.S. at least means that a lot are bring introduced to it.
  9. thanks all for your replies, but there are certain clarificatons that i would like to make(it was my mistake not to be exact in the first post) and some questions i would like to ask. 1. the country i belong to is india 2. the college i chose for my education is a govt. college but i did have an option to chose a private college as well. the choice was made based on the better education the college provided and the lower tution fees. but again the choice was not entirely my own as i still depend on my parents. so the questions are 1. when is a choice a volitional choice(what exactly is meant by force?) 2. can an independent person alone make a volitional choice? 3. is an option of using or not using a highway(provided by govt.) not a volitional choice?i mean the govt doesnt force you to use the highway, it only forces certain people to pay taxes so that everyone can use these. 4. fred weiss says"over the course of your life you will be forced to pay much, much more. I can assure you that in all liklihood you will end up paying far more than you ever objectively get back in return." is evil that potent ?
  10. john galt says that there are two sides to every issue-one side is right and the other is wrong ,but the middle is always evil. are we all not betraying him by choosing the middle path. this brings me to my own case........i live in a country where most of the basic amneities provided by the govt. - my education, the electricity, rail and roads etc etc. so am i immoral? suppose i want to payback all this debt after completing my education......how do i do that : paying tax will be feeding and furthuring the existing system, while not paying it will only put extra burden on those very productive men whose money i expropriated in the first place. in short how does one practice morality in a mixed economy?
  11. Hello everyone, Howard Roark in ‘The Fountainhead’ says, “We inherit the product of the thought of other men. We inherit the wheel. We make the cart. The cart becomes an automobile. The automobile becomes an airplane. But all through the process what we receive from others is the end products of their thinking. The moving force is the creative faculty, which takes this product as material, uses it and originates the next step” And a question arose in my mind: how do we take the end products or more precisely how are we taught to take the products of the creators? I have penned my views in this article about how things are being taught to young students. ......................................................................... Do you know what is ‘malus pumila’? Of course you do, but the term 'malus pumila' is alien to you. It is the scientific name for apple, a fruit so common to all of us. The point being made is one cant attach any intrinsic value to knowing the term 'malus pumila' as, not knowing it will not diminish your taste for it, nor would it render you incapable of acquiring one. Let me give another example to reinforce my argument, knowing that there are 12 inches in a foot and 3 feet in a yard have no intrinsic value attached to it because, if you are in a country where the metric system of measurement is prevalent this knowledge is useless. Of course one may say that the knowledge of the scientific term for apple has no value for a layman but is significant for a student of botany, in the sense that it is elementary and a proficient student is expected know this much. But at this point many make the mistake of putting the cart before the horse, that is, assuming that the one who knows the elementary terminology essentially is proficient in his field. So to make the knowledge of vocabulary as the basis to gauge ones proficiency is logically incorrect. Because a person might have done a path breaking research on the medicinal properties of apple and still be stumped when asked, what is ‘malus pumila’? But what happens when students are in fact asked the same question again and again? The students stop worrying about everything else. When the students realize that it is the rote memory that is being rewarded you no longer expect them to think (the tendency to do least work-as perceived, to reap the same reward is one of the reasons…….but we’ll come to it later). Students, to coin a new word, start to vocabularize knowledge. Vocabulary in this context means: the knowledge that is non-applicable or in more general terms ‘non-amenable to reason or manipulation’. And the term vocabularize refers to the process of assimilating useful knowledge in a way so as to render it non-amenable to reason or manipulation, or in other words accepting truth as uncorrelated list of names. One of the extreme forms of vocabularization is manifested when students are unable to carry out basic operations in calcuus when applied to elementary engineering problems despite the fact they have learnt the subject (calculus) in great detail. The Modus operandi of vocabularization essentially consists of knowing the ‘end-product’ and understanding the ‘what’. As opposed to the rational method of knowing and understanding the ‘initial conditions’ and following the dynamics that make the end product possible. The end product here is any artificial creation of human mind and labor and hence the domain of the discussion is about the way we understand and apply abstract concepts like the calculus and the way we learn (analyse) and later design material objects like an earthen dam or a bridge. The initial conditions are the requirements or the inspiration (the original rudimentary idea of the creator) that trigger the process that culminates in an end product. Dynamics here mean the interpretation and application of the laws of the nature using his imagination and creativity by the creator to come up with the end product. Vocabularization bypasses the law of causality and accepts the end products as thunderbolts out of blue that strike for ‘some reason’ of their own. This acceptance of an end product presupposes the validity of dynamics and ignores the initial conditions, thus obviating the need to understand the ‘some reason’, hence minimizing work. From the forgoing discussion it follows that Vocabularization by the students is only a response to the teachers asking the ‘what’ and not the ‘why’. But the objective is only to minimize work (which is not an irrational thing per se) What gives the students the sanction to vocabularize is the belief that an understanding of the ‘some reason’ is unnecessary. The root lies in the lack of respect for the individual capacity, the habit of escaping from responsibility and taking refuge in the ability of others. From this stems the notion that ‘I am’ not capable enough to comprehend a thing that others accept as such. That’s why the teacher assumes that the person who writes the book is always correct (He takes refuge in the judgment of the publisher and the thousands others like him.) And tells his students to accept what he has to feed them on his authority. Any question from the students is taken to heart not because it challenges his conviction (he has no conviction of his own) but because it undermines his faith in others. So the creative faculty of the student gets progressively deteriorated, as the only thing he is taught to do is to repeat mechanically the procedures elaborated by others, and study passively the things made by others. In other words the student is trained to learn by observation, observing the existing end products as they exist and reproducing them as an when necessary. Here the pragmatic person would interject: isn’t this the simplest of all methods which even the least intelligent person can use as it involves nothing more than a keen sense of observation. The answer is NO. The rational method ensures that every possible end product can be explored as this method presupposes only a reasoning mind and the knowledge of the laws of the nature. On the other hand the person habituated to learn by observation can’t conceive of the ramification of even a slightest change in the initial conditions and needs to observe still more end products to find the one that suits the changed initial conditions. An end product, which may not exist in the first place. But a pragmatic person can’t wait for want of ideas, so the expediency of the situation allows for a poor imitation. So to view the problem from another perspective the difference in the two methods lie in the amount of knowledge and the degree of understanding and creativity required. So the pragmatic is incorrect on the count that to learn by observation is the simplest and the most practical way of learning. So are the students who vocabularize in order to minimize work when in fact they are choosing the most cumbersome way. The system of learning by observation is faith masquerading as reason. It is a refuge of the second-handers and such a system of learning only produces second handers whose very existence primarily depends on others and unaided are incapable of doing anything. Whereas a reasoning mind, from a rational approach is capable to create new ideas and build things ab-initio. And it is to these reasoning minds who in most cases started form the scratch that the mankind owes the progress from the cave to the skyscrapers.
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