Kamil

Don't blame me blame the spell check.

]O Really news flash I use a spell check ! Prove me wrong ! Quote the word the I spelled incorrectly bring it on show me my errors. Bring it on. Do it show me my errors I’m waiting. “Hel” is not a spelling error its a word from the Polish language equally “hel” and “oni” again except words from different languages my spell check in not finding errors. Maybe you learn to actually have something before starting . Maybe if you actually run my posts in a spell check you will not find errors. What is it with you people and you your absolute lack of evidence ? If I’m hard to understand then ask nicely for clarification note that I have asked nicely if there is a problem in understanding of my writing. Nicely so that a confusion can be clarified . I’m not claming that my sentence is perfect after all English is not my first language. However to somehow absurdly jump to conclusions that I need to use a spell check is retarded especially that I use one maybe next time you ask yourself humbly “hey maybe this dude is using a spell check lets see and check his posts in MS-Word”. If I have made a spelling error then I apologies immediately and give my humble regrets this I swear to you. It could be that I have used one word that haze a different meaning is spelled the same however written differently (or , ore) and made a mistake. I would sincerely apologies if proven wrong. May I ask what brings you to the conclusion that I have a spelling error in one of my posts ? There may be a word that haze a different meaning however that not a spelling error. Besides I’m using short word structures and I’m often repeating the same concept just to make my self absolutely clear. If there is a difficulty simply quote the sentence and ask for me to clarify. While I know that I don’t supposed to jump on people like this really tops everything I use a spell check I can’t get over it , chow could you assume that I don’t use a spell check ?

Didn’t I write the exact thing In my response to you ? Do you have difficulties understanding concepts or stuff that I write ? Actually there are a lot of people identifying themselves for Gnostic/Agnostic Atheists ( http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?tit...st_vs._Agnostic ). BTW A nice hint you start using logic and reason then you don’t look retarded. Trying to prove a absolute negative is impossible you fool ! Because you would need to be all knowing and have knowledge of every single person in history and obviously your knowledge is less then a Google searche , that’s a nice example of what accurse if you don’t accept the impossibility of proving a absolute negative (matrix scenario) especially is it is possible (there is no logical of physical limitation for humans to do this ). O Yes how I love the superstitious people always believing in magic seriously you are going to defend this notion ? Ok neo-mystic boy here it comes “HOW do you discover the exact meaning of the word ONI ?” What is the exact meaning of this combination of audio waves and how are you going to discover it ? Maybe using your magical crystal ball ? How about the word Hel is it Hell ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell ) like in English or Hel ( http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(miasto) ) like in Polish ? And with in Polish is it the hel ( http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(pierwiastek) ) element or Hel ( http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(miasto) ) please ? Yes overindexing can accrue in one language or how about the English word state is it a synonym for government “the state haze ordered” or a word like “I state this proposition” ? Bring it on show me this discovering of exact definitions of sound wave patterns and I will be the firs to congratulate you on your Nobel prize in linguistics and physics . Bring it on stop talking nonsense and give me some examples instead of this religious crap I’m a hard core empiricist and I will get my evidence. BTW what are you going to tell me next “One day you will discover there is a god ” ? HAHAHA really you silly religious notions are the same retarded bullshit that Christians throw at me simply replace the word “god” with anything and you have again the same illogical argument. Maybe you assumed that you don’t supposed to overindex in a definition set however this is more a rule then a discoverable truth. I argue strongly in favor of outlawing overindexing. However this is not consistent with word like “discover”. PS: Why do I suppose to hold enemy respect for a definition of something that belongs to a long extinct religion. I can use their index numbers because they sound nice if I wont to besides its used by many Atheist so they understand it and its accepted. Whets next rename the planets because if someone says Jupiter you think about the god Jupiter and not the name give to the planet ? Your proposition is absurd at best to honor the index numbers of nonexistent religions of how altruistic from you. ???? What is that ??? ???? Are you referring to this dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Derrida ???? Do you really think I got my ideas from a book ? HAHAHAHA Thus are self evident truths that can be found true experimentation its like me presenting the proof for gravity and you say “Have you been reading too much Newton ”. You can find and prove everything that I have stated here ! Look up the languages ! See that overindexing occurs ! Case proven there can be overindexing therefore there is no inherent meaning to audio wave combinations that we have for index numbers or are you implying numerology ? It may be surprising to someone who is a second hander that depends on other people for knowledge that some people like me are quite capable of discovering knowledge on their own. While I agree for all practical reasons with his its still not sufficient to deny a matrix scenario because there would be no possibility of every discovering something different because every sensory impute would be a part of the matrix and unlike in the film there would be no people or evidence to free you from the matrix (no evidence to show that you are deluded , its more like a insane person who is constantly hallucinating and will never awake and haze no contact with reality or real people ). The matrix scenario is a nice description of the impossibility of all knowledge because even if something is claming a absolute stance to know that he is all knowing he would need to know that he isn’t in a matrix and the matrix is obscuring itself from his powers. Besides its a nice that experiment to realize how some experiences can be deceiving like hallucinations and some truths that can be hidden under a that we think is the truth examples Newton physics and Einstein’s physics or how about the atom previously assumed to be indivisible now we know we can split it or even play alchemy creating gold from air (nuclear fusion) so knowledge can be only statistical never absolute. The matrix scenario is for me more of a abstract mind experiment to show that sometimes evidence like thinking you can disprove the possibility of making iron into gold by seeing some religious nonsense preformed on metals doesn’t negate the possibility of iron turning into gold however we never can know if there exists this possibility or not. On a side note there could be a possibility us really living in the matrix and do to our limitations never realizing it , a nice example of this is found in games/simulations for instance the game “black and white” is a god game where players play as gods to compete with other while some AI gods are really all knowing (they can detect everything instantaneously do to the scripting) in the game , they can never use thus abilities out side of the game because they are only a limited script created by the computer/matrix. And this is a nice debacle for Christians and everyone claming to have negative knowledge that is absolute (god can not be deceived) in science positive knowledge only counts (like this experiment doesn’t make iron into gold ) that is not absolute. One thing before someone points out “but saying that it is impossible to prove a absolute negative is absolute in itself ” maybe I clarify if I use impossible I have ~99% certainty only and if someone shows me a method to find a way out of the matrix scenario I will correct my self and accept that is possible however until someone doesn’t show a method that works my statistical knowledge remains the same.

O boy you wrought a lot of fantasy nonsense that contains a lot of logical fallacies and superstitious assumptions that would take 20 posts of questioning to unwrap them for nothing else then fallacies and assumptions. However instead of doing this I will simply bring you down to the ground . Answer me this boy can you travel faster then the speed of light ? YES/NO answers only however regardless of the answer you contradicted yourself saying : According to Newton YES , according to Einstein NO so you say that we can and can not travel faster then the speed of light ? Next question is gravity a force that travels instantaneously (infinite speed) or travels with the speed of light ? YES/NO/Other answers However you already contradicted yourself saying that gravity travels instantaneously and at the speed of light. According to Newton gravity travels instantaneously according to Einstein gravity travels with the speed of light. They both can not be true . You simply contradict logic and assert absurdities , its easy if you are talking in abstract nonsense however if you make a testable example of your thinking it false apart. Kainscalia do you have a argument or something ? A Gnostic Atheist is a Atheist that haze knowledge of god and because of this knowledge knows that there is no god because he/she haze tested/visited god and did not find a god. Gnostic = with knowledge ; Agnostic = without knowledge ; Theist = with a believe in god ; Atheist = Without a believe in god. There is a pattern with the “A” , can you see a pattern with the “A” ? I think you can figure it out besides what do you think it supposed to mean are you reeling on your gut feelings ? Without knowing the definition of the word that I use your assertions are silly saying “Agnostic Theist” I could mean the concept you know as a taster ? I don’t think that you know languages to assert south thing nether to say in Polish(language) the word “Oni” means “They” and in Japanese its evil spirit or something like this and I’m now in a town that is named “HELL” in Poland and written “Hel” so how can you possibly know what I did have in mind ? Really this is amusing if I would say "I live in HELL" most mentally limited English speakers would be confused not knowing that there is really a town with this name. My advice ask for the definition for a given index number before saying something about this index number especially if a over indexing accrued it will help you to not look foolish in some circumstances. You can define "Democratic Socialist" for "human" and instead of saying that you have seen a human you would say you have seen a democratic socialist and there is no contradiction in the index numbers themselves the concepts they are assigns can be contradictory I think that helps you. Warning I’m not a native English speaker.

A nice reductum ad absurdum for you 1) a schizophrenic person thinks he see a cat next to him , he based on that experience knows that he haze a cat therefore according to your logic he haze a cat 2) However other persons observe that there is no cat , it’s a figment of imagination of this person and that he is patting the air not a cat this again is 100% true according to you. 3)because 1 and 2 can not be true the argument fails or are you arguing that A is NO A and A at the same time? 4) The classical strategy to this is to play subjectivism and word games you see you can argue that every person in 1 and 2 are 100% true in their frame of reference however this negates a objective reality. Identically if you argue that Einstein and Newton are 100% true , they are not. One persons models reality better the other that’s why one is false and the other is write. And this is named validating something against a objective reality not believing in a subjective personal truth where everyone is 100% true. Finally every experience would be equally true making superstition a fact by default because it would be true in this persons “frame of reference”. However the point is that we can never know what this objective reality is and can never have 100% certainty we are not a brain in a jar or in the matrix because every prove ultimately rests on our senses and they can be deceived example drugs (or is a LSD trip 100% real and we have weird stuff around ). Now on god As a Gnostic Atheist I know there is no god simply if god is defined for a perfect creature that “loves” me I know there can not be a god because something perfect would not have the need to love anything (or create any thing it would be perfect already having everything it needs ) and if something is not perfect then it can simply go insane or misjudge on some occasion. Besides all knowing conflicts with itself (how can god know he isn’t in a matrix ?). However this doesn’t negate the possibility of the existence of something that is incredibly powerful and evil or/and insane that could be named god however worshiping it would be pointless. Warning I’m not a native English speaker.