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  1. Words have their precise as well as their colloquial usage. In writing,, especially in book form, precision is what Peikoff touted in his course on Objective Communication while the colloquial form is more appropriately reserved for the extemporaneous, or public speaking venue were circling around and groping for the word to use is not unexpected. Until seeing the objection raised here, it had not occurred to me to consider "inbuilt" in the manner suggested. For just the word "inbuilt" itself, the following entry, attributed to Oxford was returned: existing as an original or essential part of something or someone. As such, this seems quite adequate.
  2. It is a phraseology with which I'm not familiar, Eioul.
  3. Here's Peikoff's statement from chapter 7 of Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand (OPAR): If life is what you want, you must pay for it, by accepting and practicing a code of rational behavior. Morality, too, is a must—if; it is the price of the choice to live. That choice itself, therefore, is not a moral choice; it precedes morality; it is the decision of consciousness that underlies the need of morality. Fairly explicit, in that regard. His footnote references page 941 of Atlas Shrugged, but I don't have the particular variant of the novel he cites.
  4. An organism’s life depends on two factors: the material or fuel which it needs from the outside, from its physical background, and the action of its own body, the action of using that fuel properly. What standard determines what is proper in this context? The standard is the organism’s life, or: that which is required for the organism’s survival. No choice is open to an organism in this issue: that which is required for its survival is determined by its nature, by the kind of entity it is. By such reckoning, with no choice being open in this regard, it appears to lie outside of this hypothetical imperative. This is where those who stay alive without exercising the choice in question, do so at the behest of those who have made that choice.
  5. From The Objectivist Ethics: “Man has been called a rational being, but rationality is a matter of choice—and the alternative his nature offers him is: rational being or suicidal animal. Man has to be man—by choice; he has to hold his life as a value—by choice; he has to learn to sustain it—by choice; he has to discover the values it requires and practice his virtues—by choice. A code of values accepted by choice is a code of morality.” Being entirely contingent on some prior willing/choosing comes across as recursive. What gets tied into this elsewhere is the acceptance of the axiom that existence exists, and while the axiom is accepted by choice, it is not contingent upon ones choosing.
  6. Miss Rand, in her essay on The Objectivist Ethics added the following footnote: * When applied to physical phenomena, such as the automatic functions of an organism, the term “goal-directed” is not to be taken to mean “purposive” (a concept applicable only to the actions of a consciousness) and is not to imply the existence of any teleological principle operating in insentient nature. I use the term “goal-directed,” in this context, to designate the fact that the automatic functions of living organisms are actions whose nature is such that they result in the preservation of an organism’s life. She added that footnote at the end of this paragraph: Only a living entity can have goals or can originate them. And it is only a living organism that has the capacity for self-generated, goal-directed action. On the physical level, the functions of all living organisms, from the simplest to the most complex—from the nutritive function in the single cell of an amoeba to the blood circulation in the body of a man—are actions generated by the organism itself and directed to a single goal: the maintenance of the organism’s life.* Peifoff added "leaving aside his internal bodily processes". The paragraph leading up to and containing this is separating the volitional from what is not volitional, or in the terminology he used, "inbuilt".
  7. Definition of hypothetical imperative : an imperative of conduct that springs from expediency or practical necessity rather than from moral law —contrasted with categorical imperative. This is a position ascribed to Rand?
  8. To enjoy something provides a basis for valuing that something which is enjoyed. To value something in turn can provide the impetus to act to acquire it. Enjoyment serves as the reason for valuing in such a case. If developed no further and enjoyment is pursued for its own sake, it is called hedonism.
  9. The copy of the '76 lectures I possess has a disclaimer stating that the formulations in the book were superior, and the course was made available for those who might find it instructive to compare the differences. Perhaps the credit that Peikoff deserves is not for his ability to have preserved the "letter of the law", but to have captured the "spirit" of Objectivism in a well organized presentation. Her redacted public notice came out prior to the '76 lectures. As the composer of Objectivism, hers are the official scores. Furthermore, her verbal endorsement here was affixed to his verbal delivery. If anything, more benefit could probably be derived grasping the steps and criteria that establishes what can be taken as objectively true, and being able to communicate it in such a way that others find enrolling.
  10. Then consider framing the inquiry this way. How would you form the concept of "value" without having the concept of "life"? (That is, without having the concept of "life" explicitly or implicitly?)
  11. I don't understand how the concept of "value" is to be understood without first having the concept of "life"?
  12. In order to write a manual for the particular tree's life, it would need to be extracted from a manual for Tree's Life, based on the particular conditions the particular tree's life would be expected to encounter. One manual is written for the proper care and raising of trees in general. For the proper care and raising of a specific particular tree, the inapplicable sections of raising of trees in general could be omitted.
  13. In order to write a manual for the particular tree's life, the conditions it would encounter along the way need be known to prescribe at every turn what care is needed. A manual for a tree's life in general seeks to generalize the conditions any tree might encounter and how to select what care is needed based on the particular conditions encountered. (Seems quite a short retort to such an elaborate set up.)
  14. If you wish to disagree with Rand's position, you have to start by identifying her basic premises, and then refuting them—if you can. — paraphrased. It seems you're asking for someone to identify her basic premises for you.
  15. Being succinct and being perspicuous are not always mutually synonymous.
  16. What is it that you, Eric D, find unclear or superfluous therein?
  17. In Faith and Force: The Destroyers of the Modern World she leads up to her conclusion with: I cannot summarize for you the essence and the base of my morality any better than I did it in Atlas Shrugged. So, rather than attempt to paraphrase it, I will read to you the passages from Atlas Shrugged which pertain to the nature, the base and the proof of my morality. In an edited section of The Journals of Ayn Rand Part 3 - Transition Between Novels 8 - The Moral Basis of Individualism For her proof of man's life as the standard of moral value, see John Galt's speech in Atlas Shrugged and "The Objectivist Ethics" in The Virtue of Selfishness. The 'proof' portion of John Galt's speech in Atlas Shrugged is cited in the Faith and Force link. Here is a link to The Objectivist Ethics. The written form can be found in her books Philosophy: Who Needs It? and The Virtue of Selfishness: A New Concept of Egoism.
  18. Indeed it does. It also put into place and reinforces the notion the state has a role in ensuring that its citizens be educated, paving the way for the establishment of a bureaucracy over the content to be taught.
  19. Starting with Massachusetts in 1852 as the first state, ending with Mississippi in 1927, when all of the states had passed some form of compulsory education if you're looking for a potential nominee..
  20. It was the terms I used to span her early use of instinct with her later refinement or delineation of the same. Your two citations come across more as meaning "human nature" where "carnal instincts" or "human instincts" was used. Jl no
  21. Uber self-driving car involved in fatal crash couldn't detect jaywalkers The NTSB will meet on November 19 to determine the cause of the accident that occurred in Tempe, Arizona in March of 2018. Prosecutors have already absolved Uber of criminal liability, but are still weighing criminal charges against the driver. So even though the vehicle has a autonomous mode, the driver is responsible to know when the software/hardware interface creates a dangerous situation and take control.
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