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    I am retired and invest in stocks now. I am not a philosopher by profession, but my observation of overall social situation in India (‘untouchability’, religious schisms, oppression of ladies, poverty consequent to orthodox fanaticism despite a huge pool of intelligent and open-minded people) + reading of American books (in particular Ayn Rand) etc led me to think about the effect of philosophy on human societies. But I have had no chance to air these views because of social surrounding etc. (and experience showed that reasoned arguments bring only disadvantages). Nowadays there is more openness in some social strata, and there are better minded people available, but there are a lot of barriers for me to join them because of age etc. Also, despite education, I am not Internet savvy – in fact only in 2008 I came to know that it is possible to join large groups of discussion like this one. (After seeing some Objectivist sites, I was pained to note that the small following of Objectivists is also a heavily divided community, with some groups considering each other to be bigger enemies than the erosion going on in America. I am neutral to these groups because it is not possible to go into these details. I wish to discuss ideas with people where a lot of agreement is seen.) I have some thoughts in particular about the erosion of reason in the US, the country specifically built on reason as its foundation. Hope that I will have a good exchange of ideas with members here.
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  1. S/W N This is a very big topic, but some answer to it will come in my next post. Only one site had some discussion about this post (10 comments); on all other sites it was generally neglected. I thank the few who responded – it is courageous to encourage when all others choose to neglect a controversial topic. Fortunately nobody stamped me as racist – that allegation is normal if one just mentions what is openly going on in politics despite it being obvious that if one upholds the original constitution of America one cannot be a racist. From one angle Ingram’s comment (on TP Nation) is correct – America seems to be going down just with a whimper, not nukes – as Ayn Rand said: not Satan with drawn-out sword but a corner-lout (Dem-liberals!) sipping a bottle of Coca-cola! From another angle it won’t be so – no squirming / wriggling of GOP / TPM is going to work; ultimately fanatic Christian, white supremacist etc type of groups will surely takeover like after fall of Rome – this time the celebrations could be with nukes. My Indian colleagues who helped me with my writing have sacrificed heavily simply because they read Ayn Rand (whose popularity amongst educated Indians is second to America) and realized how much they owe to white-man’s enlightenment via British! They are ready to do more for America than most Americans – they are under huge persecution because of their American thoughts, sort of out-castes, yet undeterred, therefore more heroic! Our actual target is democracy -- but if groups based on any criteria like race / religion etc are being used to grab power then they have to be identified – We found that in American politics, the Dem-liberals, the major destroyers of America for the sake of power (the Rep-Conzs being the minor destroyers) are the real racists, but they use white-man’s self-inflicted undeserved guilt about slavery in such a manner that the emancipator is projected as evil! They started the game (of the welfare state) by first destroying the Af-Ams by means of doles, turning them into parasites cum vote-block, then into criminals, and now using them for the felling. (Af-Ams were the start; today the welfare state has taken over everything). Democracy has so demoralized the white-man that we cannot expect him to pronounce the king to be naked – only the innocent child bereft of cowardice will do so! The above is brought out in my next post (in 1-2 days). I request members to logically point out where it is racist; whether it reveals facts related with American politics or no; and whether there is a massive inversion or no, i.e. whether the Dem-liberals, who accuse anybody speaking truth as racist, are the real racists or no? I have purposely titled it a bit dramatically as below – but the real intention is to keep it factual with a warning embedded in it, and an invitation to point out anything wrong with it, racist or otherwise. Are some blacks the only honest intellectuals in AMERICA? (is looking the other way the way to protect rationality? or is it the way to push white youth into kkk, N-word and 88!) WILL WHITE COWARDICE LEAD TO AMERICA’S collapse?
  2. The background to this OP is my response (no 19) to the OP “How big of a problem is racism in the USA?” in Domestic Politics in Current Events. The reader is urged to read that post prior to reading this one. Following is just an introduction to my long write-up on erosion due to democracy and misuse of race / religion in it. PART I Like many Americans I have always been politically conscious and intellectually active and during the course of it I have stumbled upon a principle I have called as “The Established Norm” – that the man who contributes so highly to civilization as to be called as hero is made to pay heavily for his heroism; all of mankind’s greatest heroes were just lynched and burnt as heretics all over the earth at all times except for small periods of time and over small regions like ancient Greece. Even in Europe around the formation of the US they were made to pay, the prime example of which is Galileo. During recent times they are not burnt, yet Ayn Rand’s The Fountainhead is a typical story of treatment meted out to many even in as advanced a society as the US! On the other hand the men who perpetuate huge irrationality are looked upon as idealist / messiah. Not only that the past is monopolized by such “saints” but even some American Presidents belong to this category, example St. FDR because of his “New Deal”! But this phenomenon applies not only to individuals but also to entire societies. As an example, the Anglo Saxons who came out with the concept of unalienable rights of an individual had established the best society in human history so far, were the greatest contributors to knowledge and greatest liberators of men in human history. But they as well as their ideas are thoroughly maligned. For example, their ideas of right to life and freedom of thought and expression are the only basis of civilized life on earth; the “undeveloped” societies are actually uncivilized because of lacking these rights. Right to life is the right to rational selfishness, whereas freedom of thought and expression is the right to rational usage of ego. But the very ideas of selfishness and egoism are so much maligned amongst mankind as to be looked upon as evil – consequently the western man is looked upon as “selfish” (traditionally meaning murderously evil) exploiter and enslaver. But even the western man considers selfishness and egoism to be evil and particularly amongst the Anglo Saxons, charity is looked upon as the final virtue, the ultimate end to be achieved by man. To be considered really successful in Anglo Saxon societies, achievers also have to undertake charity – what’s more, one can also see a competition amongst them about it. (Please note that this attachment to charity is an important factor contributing to their inability to stop the ongoing slide of their countries.) (The falsity of so-called undeveloped societies in considering western man to be evil is exposed by the fact that they simultaneously long to, and commit acts of daredevilry to illegally migrate to the western countries – that is a part of “The Established Norm” explained above, to consider the westerners as evil because of their virtues, but at the same time to avail of the benefits of those virtues by illegal activities!) With reference to the issues of slavery and racism the white Americans led by the Anglo Saxon Protestants (ASPs) who are predominantly individualists, offer another glaring example of an entire society subjected to the above described Established Norm of huge injustice to the rational contributor. Starting with the British who implemented abolition of slavery decades prior to the Americans and who stopped massive injustice under the name of religion (all over the earth), the ASPs spread civilization to the extent it exists in the undeveloped societies today! The ASPs built, with tremendous courage, efforts and sacrifice of blood, sweat and life, two continents on two sides of the Pacific, a radically different New World as compared to the old one they gave up; they also liberated a lot of people, to list some of them: the Af-Ams, Europeans (many Catholics amongst them), myriad migrants from all over the world (including many Latinos and others from enemy countries), and all those who are free all over the world like the three Indian lower castes. But today the emancipators are unquestionably looked upon as enslavers and racists, the whole earth (led by evil bodies like the UN) hates them, and every epithet is thrown at them like greedy, selfish (traditionally evil), materialist looters of earth, war mongerers etc. But more importantly, the emancipated people who have not contributed much to civilization are out to take-over their countries (this is not merely internally, even the external evil of the UN has intruded in their internal affairs and violated their sovereignty), and the original creators almost have no answer to it! Please note that ‘whites’ has become a symbol of hatred, not only all over the earth, but even within their own countries, mainly representing the American whites followed by Western Europeans. Accordingly, today’s racial problem in America is not of white racism, but of Reverse Racism on whites, which is very glaringly being seen; but the social atmosphere is so very full of wrong ideas that most mainstream intellectuals denounce as racist any man who says so. The whole of it is a huge shock because of its massive, purposeful, glaringly open inversion! (See ** Note below). Not racism, but slavery is openly being practiced over a large part of the earth, against which the ASPs are the only and greatest emancipators in the history of mankind. Though internationally the word racism automatically implies ‘white racism’, the fact is that ‘hate’ exists much more strongly in rest of the world than in America of which I have given many examples in the write-up. None of the well-established slaves (for example the lower castes, i.e. 80% of India) would have seen freedom for thousands of years to come, had it not been for ASP enlightenment via the British who abolished slavery decades prior to America. (Looking at today’s situation what one can say is: If there is any blemish on the ASPs then it is only that they emancipated people who did not deserve to be emancipated; of-course this is racist, but so also reverse racism on whites, and the latter is destroying civilization, not the former.) To convey the gravity of misconceptions I am quoting a sentence from within the write-up: During Civil Rights movement of 1960s it was invented that whites invented slavery and heaped never-before miseries on Af-Ams (and from whatever I have read I seem to be the first person telling white people about the above complete inversion against them!) Just because they are magnanimous (while today also being demoralized), they are targeted as racist! Further shock: They accept their undeserved guilt, they bend and pay to rogue-politicians, and even help evil men in destroying their country! ** Note – As a comment, a reviewer informed me of such a bigger, widely held, popular misunderstanding about the topic of slavery and reverse racism on whites that I was forced to include below a separate sub-article titled “A widely held popular belief, an LMAO, or ASP quest to destroy the civilization they built?” Please see the sub-article ahead. Important question is: Why did this reversal happen to the ASPs, and why did they accept it? The most important reason is the ASPs’ inability to guard against democracy, because of which they have been thoroughly demoralized, leading to cowardice. I have handled erosion due to democracy and solution to it in further parts of my write-up; here mainly racism-related aspects are described. The most important characteristic of democracy relevant here is its dependence on majority as arbiter of truth, which sets a competition of getting the lower strata of society to one’s side even by unfair means. Amongst other things like creating and nurturing a huge vote-block of parasites by distributing doles out of productive peoples’ money, it also necessitates making continuous allegations against the good and virtuous – as shown in the write-up ahead, the rulers need to first impoverish and criminalize the lower strata, which then need a target to hate so as to keep them bound as followers. That is the root of such self-righteous hatred of whites, of strong Reverse Racism against them. The intent of this write-up is to do justice to those who have naturalized into Americans and have adopted the original Anglo Saxon way of life of individualism and are today being subjected to huge injustice of Reverse Racism. Note that in America there was some change as compared to Britain that many Europeans (and even others appreciably) naturalized into American way of life of individualism (i.e. racism reduced amongst them) – yet the origin of American way of life remains distinctly Anglo Saxon, and whites are predominantly the individualists, therefore called as “angry white men” by their opponents – hence beyond this point the words ASP, Anglo Saxon, whites etc are used for “individualist Americans”, without racist intention, it being shown ahead that as a group the white Americans are the least racist on earth. (By contrast minority labels surely have racist purposes which I have explained ahead in detail.) Because of my firm conviction about the magnanimity of America’s Anglo Saxon heritage, and determination to undo today’s reverse racism on them, I studied practice of slavery and hate all over the earth with emphasis on India’s caste-system. I found that Indian rulers (evil Brahmins called as RPs for reason explained ahead) are the best example of monstrous evil who murdered India by imposing the caste system – it can throw light on some American rulers who are now traversing the same path. One important reason for inversion of facts could be that emancipation could not have happened overnight, it had to stretch over several decades; the start of emancipation had to be the older way of life (slavery) inherited from mankind’s past (with the emancipators owning and trading in slaves), gradually abolishing slavery and then even eliminating racism after civil rights movement in 1960s. That transition stage from 4000 year-old slavery to emancipation by ASPs over 100-200 years is intellectually one of the most complicated parts and is being used to accuse ASPs of being racists even while they were gradually emancipating. (See sub-article about Inheritance ahead.) (Since I have challenged ahead the intellectual establishment about many aspects related with reverse racism, I challenge them at the moment to describe an alternate pattern of emancipation, i.e. if supposing mankind were to be emancipated, how would it proceed – a lone ‘savior’ of slaves under Egyptian Pharaohs as shown in some biblical movies? (Slavery is that old.) Another commandment on Mount Sinai? Miracle, punishment of god’s wrath to “white sinners”? Reincarnation of Christ? Then how and particularly could it happen overnight? The ASPs were the greatest and only emancipators in mankind’s history, but the start of emancipation had to be a continuation of mankind’s past!) Amongst the intellectuals known to me, the “only man of courage” who did some rational work in this regard is Ayn Rand. She has written a single article on Racism (in the book “The Virtue of Selfishness”), which is very inadequate for this huge topic, but the likely reason is that Reverse Racism had not developed like today – but as soon as she noticed the first steps of Reverse Racism, she showed the courage of pronouncing truth, which exposes by contrast the cowardice of all other mainstream white intellectuals (and in particular her alleged Objectivist (O’ist) followers). I shall give explanation based on quotes from her article on Racism. Hers is the only article I have seen to be against “Negro Leaders”; and it was as far back as in 1960s, just after the civil rights movement when they commanded huge sympathy and their bad behavior had just started! Following are simple derivations based on quotes from her article: Quote Today, it is not an oppressor, but an oppressed minority group that is demanding the establishment of racial quotas! It means that white laborer is to be charged with collective racial guilt, the guilt consisting merely the color of his skin. That absurdly evil policy is now destroying the moral base of the Negroes’ fight. Unquote It is the above mentioned collective racial guilt that the whites are very foolishly carrying today, post 2000, and paying for it in the form of huge Reverse Racism against them! Otherwise the Af-Ams (and more importantly Democrats – Dems leading them) have long time back lost “the moral base of the Negroes’ fight”! In fact most politicians (but foremost Dems amongst them) have lost their entire claim to a moral base, but the ASPs do not have any answer to the situation. If the above is Ayn Rand’s reaction to the very start of Af-Ams’ racist misbehavior, imagine what she would have said about the “This is for Trayvon Martin” carnage-cum-revelry seen in 2014 when they have lost all sympathy due to their criminal activities and parasitism – I did not see much reaction to it on many O’ist forums! Ayn Rand’s article starts with the sentence “Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism.” This statement substantially absolves as society, the Americans (who adopted Anglo Saxon philosophy and way of life) of all charges of slavery and racism – there never was on earth, as much of an individualist, benevolent, magnanimous and enlightened society as the Anglo Saxons who built so much on earth, and who brought in so much of knowledge and emancipation. Whatever negatives remained in them were inherited from mankind – whatever enlightenment was there, was theirs! The whole of the ‘undeveloped’ world is in various degrees a continuum of collectivists, starting with western Europe being a distant second to America, followed by Far East, then the more backward countries like India, Bangladesh etc – to such an extent that, forget backward people, even the seemingly developed Europeans too have not fully understood the original ASP concept of “unalienable rights of an individual”, rights which neither the rulers , nor the remaining society could violate – unfortunately too many Americans too have forgotten it today! (Despite being 250 years old, when compared with 4000 year-old history of collectivism and mankind’s low ability to assimilate complex philosophical concepts, it is very new and not understood by mankind that is fully submerged in collectivism!) As a corollary to Ayn Rand’s statement, even today, amongst different countries, Americans are the least racist, others are far more so; and internally, as large groups, whites are the least racist (even if foolishly carrying undeserved guilt), while minorities are much more so, and are out to destroy America misusing the former’s magnanimity. The whole achievement and superiority of Westerners (led by the ASPs) is consequent to accepting rationality out of the Renaissance (Rebirth of Reason) that took place in Europe, which other people adamantly refuse to accept. And today, western cowardice comes out of not recognizing this fact. That adamant refusal is the most important point in the issue of race; till other races do not accept ASP philosophy of individualism (i.e. no welfare state, among other things) as way of life, and do not give up collectivism (including its covert, sub-conscious practices like voting as a block for doles), there will never be a solution to the racial problem but in fact civilization itself will collapse and race will be used to hasten the fall. A complete refutation about accusing American whites of racism is that till one extends ‘the inalienable rights of an individual’ to other races one cannot be called as racist for making references to racial characteristics if factual – only when one tramples others’ rights on racial basis does one become a racist. The Anglo Saxons never need feel threatened or embarrassed (or like a Nazi) due to any charges of racism against them, but should proudly bear their heritage as the most benevolent community and the emancipators of whosoever is free on earth. (Forget “rights of an individual”, it is American charity since 1750s, and now governmental charity, that makes me call them as fools and cowards – it has boomeranged on them!) In reality today’s question is not at all whether white Americans are racist or no – it is whether other people (who adamantly refuse to accept individualism) deserve those rights or no, whether they deserve to live in the same society or no, whether whites should agree to getting destroyed by sharing their society / civilization with such people. (Many prominent Americans’ views on race like those of Washington and Lincoln are available, of which Lincoln said after emancipation that whites and blacks cannot live together in harmony – should we say today that westerners cannot live together with any other people unless the latter accept individualism?) If somebody says those are their natural rights, are they able to achieve them if left alone, in their own societies, say Africa, Mexico, Iran, Afghanistan, India etc – obvious inference is that they depend on the whites to get those rights, and then hate the emancipators, pull their society down by voting for doles. “Unalienable rights of an individual” is not something one gets in the jungles of Asia and Africa, hanging by the trees like fruits – the ASPs’ is one of the greatest feats in mankind’s history -- so very big an achievement that even the next generations of ASPs are unable to defend it because of their inability to understand democracy! (That is the reason why they so very fittingly became the victims of “The Established Norm”). Others have to live upto it to deserve those rights – the important question in this regard is whether the whites will ever garner the necessary courage to say so and to protect their civilization by whatever means necessary or no? Today internal collectivists have become the biggest danger to America and the question is how to make them accept individualism – making voting rights rational, or arguing for the last time followed by civil war and eviction, or ruthless suppression to save rationality and civilization? (There is danger from external agencies like UN mainly because of successive US governments being influenced by votes of these internal collectivists). The essence of racist-collectivism in the past was not hatred, prejudice, ill-behavior etc, but attacking and taking into possession as slaves, members of other races – and some races were almost eternally or for very long period in history, treated as victim races to be conquered for slavery. E.g. Africans have been treated as slaves for thousands of years since prior to Greco-Roman times, and one can see them in those historic movies as slaves and soldiers. (Unfortunately, after emancipating them, Americans have accepted that they alone are racist slave-drivers out of all those who treated Africans as slaves!) But Africans have not been exclusively treated so historically -- the slav races in Eastern Europe are said to be the root of the word slave, because they were used so for long period of time. So one of the original slaves are white people whom other whites considered to be “inferior”. But in reality there has existed such a class in every society all over the earth like India’s “untouchables”. (Unbelievably amongst the untouchables in India even today there are three layers -- the topmost one of cobblers and some other castes who consider other two layers as untouchables; the middle ones of farm-hands etc, who consider the one below them to be untouchables; and the lowest one of sweepers!) When we refer to racism today, the hatred / prejudice implied is only a fraction of thousands of years of slavery – and it is the Anglo Saxons who have reduced it to that extent. But leave alone others, some evil white men also do not want the concept of individualism itself to remain in existence, and want reverse racism on whites to continue till collapse. The hater’s purpose is to prohibit men from studying racial characteristics because his vested interest lies in ignorance. I am urging people hereby to undertake a study on a much bigger scale. Above I have used Af-Ams as an example of people being used to promote irrationality. But similar considerations also apply to all other races that are, for any reason whatsoever, incapable or adamantly refusing to accept individualism. The group that will immediately strike Americans is Latinos, but in reality this applies to all the ‘undeveloped’ societies on earth – just as an example, from the details I read on a net-forum, the racial demographics in New Zealand is similar to that in the US with the Maori tribe substituting Af-Ams and is being used far more aggressively and effectively to destroy western civilization (there too the whites do not have any effective defense) -- in a democracy all non-individualists can pull down a society based on individualism! In further parts of this write-up I have explained in detail that there are four components of Reverse Racism which form the main part of “The Established Norm” which leads to villainizing the hero and turning the murderer into saint: i. neglecting all of Anglo Saxons’ great virtues of creation, enlightenment and liberation; ii. Accusing them of evils to the extent of implying that they originated slavery! iii. Neglecting all the vices of minorities like parasitism, criminality etc – but this point involves a bigger issue, the intent is to cover the actual murderers like India’s RPs (evil Brahmins) who then proceed to achieve sainthood; iv. Showering virtues on these murderers who move all over the earth as scholars and have now gathered in places like UN as the West’s enemies. (Corresponding American politicians are inching towards achieving sainthood.) A widely held popular belief, an LMAO, or Anglo Saxon quest to destroy the civilization they built? Note: In the following, religion has been shown to be the greatest evil in mankind’s history, but in my other writing I have differentiated between the enlightened way Christianity is practiced in western world today versus other religions including Christianity during Dark Ages – this is to take into account that a large section of society needs religion and can practice it in an enlightened manner without imposing it on anybody else, like America’s “wall of separation” and freedom of mind, as differentiated from its misuse in “undeveloped” societies. A reviewer made a shocking comment on this write-up: It is widely held that America benefited from slavery. Western Europeans benefited from slave trade. They have kept blacks and Africa backward. The fact that slavery has been practiced for millennia is new information for most readers. Hence it must be substantiated with multiple examples across geography and time. Unquote These shocking misconceptions cannot be erased in half a page – I am urging civilized people to do more work on all these aspects (racial characteristics, big government, altruism etc) if they want to live life proper for man. No question of justifying slavery, but if slaves were instrumental in building America then what is Atlas Shrugged about, what is “the mind”, science, reason, knowledge about? Then Asia and Africa (hundreds of countries) should have been the richest, far ahead of the West. They have kept Africa backwards – These are the returns for the huge efforts they have taken to uplift those people after emancipation; theirs is over-magnanimity to suicide! That slavery has been practiced for millenniums is new knowledge to most people? You are trying to shock me or is it an LMAO? They don’t know Greco-Roman history, slav races as ‘Hewers of wood and drawers of water’ from ancient times to Nazis, that Muslims attacked coastal Europe for the explicit purpose of carrying off slaves -- (I saw discussions of Muslim attack on coastal Europe on a Tea Party site; they should come forth to give details to others) -- and that Africans were brought by them even to India? (See links and quotes provided at the end of this sub-article.) Of all the massive slavery practiced on earth for 4000 years to date, carrying Africans as animals is as bad a patch as rest of it – but consider several related points – Europeans did it as continuation of Greco-Roman / Muslim history (misusing science for looting and enslavement), but ultimately it is the British who spread civilization to the extent it exists on earth, emancipated major portion of mankind (many Indians even today thank British Raj); why it happened to Africans on big scale is because their intelligence is not as much developed as their physical prowess (see quotes below and racial studies conducted by several people); another point to consider, though it is not the justification for the crime of carrying them off as slaves, but is still related to their level of intelligence, is to ask – what was their life in Africa as compared to the plantations? It is even today of a quality lower than plantation slavery because they could not have overcome savagery because of low level of intelligence – they require somebody else to impose a good government on them. Jimmy Carter in his book “A Call to Action – Women, Religion, Violence and Power” has blamed religion for the gutter-worm-dog-donkey-slavery, far gone case than the plantations in America, that is even today being practiced in Africa (with extant Indian slavery being referred to in his book) – and perhaps he has left untouched the question of “racial” genocides in Africa which definitely show that the whites are highly enlightened and far less racist! All this has to be considered before talking about this LMAO! Is it still a secret that dictatorships under any names like religion, communism, are basically animal-slavery, but today slightly improved because of spread of enlightenment by ASPs? Is it a secret that that is how slavery was practiced for last 4000 years, mainly under the name of religion? Then why did Dr. Ambedkar, well-known champion of untouchables complain about worse treatment to untouchables as compared to Greeks, Af-Ams and other slaves elsewhere on earth? Americans don’t know that religion achieved several points for thousands of years: 1. Not only stop new knowledge, but destroy every bit of existing knowledge (Galileo controversy being one well-known example of destruction of Greek knowledge), substitute civilization by savagery; 2. Turn Plato’s men of Bronze (about 85% of society under religion, i. e. commoners below clergy and noble-men, below Brahmins and Kshatriya-warriors) into worse than animals and permanently keep drinking their blood forever, whip, buy, sell them at will (happened in several religions); 3. That plantation-slavery was heaven compared to religious slavery; 4. Impose this as pious life; 5. Religion was highly successful in achieving all this, so nobody calls this as slavery? Just because religion did not call that as gutter-worm-dog-donkey slavery (the way masses in India and elsewhere were reduced to) but as “pious religion” therefore it really is “pious religion”? Individualist Americans do not know that all theories proclaiming welfare of all at the cost of individual liberty (religion, communism etc) are mere names to divert from the fact that they are far worse slavery than plantation slavery, and that mankind has lived as animals prior to the British Empire, i.e. Anglo Saxons emancipating them? Some Indians even today say “Thank you British Raj”, Mahatma Phule, first emancipator of untouchables asked his followers to take oath of loyalty to the British, many Indians wanted continuation of British rule because of release from Brahminical slavery, they even today worship English language and Macaulay for his education system – and now this! Not shock but LMAO is it? So that is the reason nobody so far used the words Reverse Racism on Whites is it? I don’t think this one article will suffice to undo this kind of foolishness, ignorance, cowardice, worship of evil, crave for destruction, or whatever it is – more work will have to be done beyond it! Links and quotes about Yakut and Habshi – as of 30-05-2014 about 8:45 pm – 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal-ud-Din_Yaqut One sentence -- Habshi's were enslaved Africans of East African descent frequently employed by Muslim monarchs in India for their reputed physical prowess and loyalty and as such were an important part of the armies and administration of the Delhi Sultanate.[2] 2. The word Habshi from Encyclopedia Brittanica -- http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/250921/Habshi One paragraph: Ḥabshī, African and Abyssinian slaves in pre-British India. The name derives from the Arabic word Ḥabashī (“Abyssinian”), through its Persian form. Such slaves, frequently employed by the chiefs of Muslim India, especially in the Deccan, were believed to have great physical prowess and ability and a lack of personal ties, which promoted loyalty. The period and geography covered between the two links, viz Yakut in Delhi to Malik Ambar of Ahmednagar, Siddis of Janjira etc, is from 1200 AD to 1948 AD and over entire India! I do not believe the affair was limited to India alone, but wherever Muslim rulers went. I have a strong hunch that Africans were used as slaves even during Biblical times and prior because of these attributes: huge physical prowess and low intelligence. And as said above, during days of their supremacy the Muslims even attacked coastal Europe to capture slaves. Instead of calling me as racist if somebody does work on these aspects, he will have helped civilization! The ASPs differed from other Europeans and rest of mankind, started gradual emancipation during the days of their power, went over-board without analysis of many factors involved, and have to think properly now, or get destroyed by emancipated people. They will have gained if one idea correctly registers into their brains – all attempts for civilization have reached upto Republic, which turned into Democracy, which was brought down by using the emancipated people or the lowest strata of society. If they study all aspects related with this phenomenon they have a chance of survival. But despite all the above, I may have to add one thing – there may never have been as murderously criminal, as blood-squeezing, as repressive, as elaborately developed a slavery as the RPs (evil Brahmins) imposed on India by lying, cheating, back-stabbing, and treachery! (Reason for and implication of repeating? Despite being the most evil murderers in mankind’s history, even today the RPs (evil Brahmins) move as “scholars” all over the earth (and their game of destroying rationality also goes on), while the ASPs, despite being the greatest emancipators carry the allegations of every kind of criminality – such a reversal (a fantastically neat execution of “The Established Norm”) cannot happen without complicity by the ASPs, even if unintended, inadvertent – hope they understand my anger about their cowardice, foolishness etc.) Hope the above takes care of the “widely held”, popular LMAO belief. Hope it enters the diseased brains (almost everybody’s today) that the ASPs did not invent slavery but contrarily were the first emancipators in mankind’s history; that they were exactly the opposite of Nazis and something is wrong with anybody who equates them with Nazis (so far); that now they are really being turned into Nazis because the emancipated people (many of them undeserving because of adamant refusal to adopt individualism) are being used to fell their civilization. Several of Americans’ “widely held” political views are equally wrong (actually LMAO), which have brought them to the brink -- hope that they take my analysis of those views in the next part seriously.
  3. Reason Man

    How big of a problem is racism in the USA?

    There is lot of discussion about this topic on the Tea Party sites where I am a member – at the end I made the following generally self-explanatory post to start my long OP on related issues which have now become very serious. XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX XX The huge misunderstanding and undeserved guilt amongst white Americans about the topic of racism due to history of slavery, their demoralization due to democracy aggravated by the whole world hating their success (including internal haters), makes me repeat a few lines as introduction to this post. An important frequent objection was on TP Patriots: What the heck does this topic have to do with the TPM and our three core values? And even warnings were issued not to go astray into racism. Basically I am for the 3 core values of TPM. But democracy has destroyed them, so I am against democracy. Democracy runs on votes and for a long time now race is being used as a major tool to segregate America, to create loyal vote-blocks, garner votes and they have already destroyed the US Constitution. In fact when the GOP emancipated the Af-Ams, the Dems were racists and Af-Ams were loyal GOP voters. But later, as part of democracy, the Dems hijacked the entire Af-Am vote-block by gradually destroying the US Constitution, starting with Wilson the racist-segregationist, FDR’s New Deal, Demo-platform of 1960 etc! But on TP Nation the black conservative Marcus produced an exceptional quote to show how race is being misused to destroy America since 1911 and prior – merely to satisfy vested self-interest. (http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3355873%3ABlogPost%3A2909178&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post (Part of it is produced here for readers’ convenience -- Marcus Quote: While I am familiar with black Republican author, orator, and advisor to U.S. Presidents, Booker T. Washington, I only recently came across this amazing quote from him which nailed the Rev. Sharptons and Rev Jacksons of America back in 1911. “There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs – partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.” Wow! Booker T. Washington had these low life scoundrels figured out way back then. He perfectly described the shameful despicable exploitation of the goodness of the American people on display at the Michael Brown funeral. Folks, in a nutshell, the Left's selective outrage over Brown's death is about getting paid and ginning up rage-based black voter turnout for Democrats in November. Apparently, the Democrats and MSM only consider a young black male's life of value when it is taken by a white person. Epidemic black on black shootings only get a yawn from Dems and the MSM while sipping their mocha lattes. Insidiously, irresponsibly and strategically, President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder even threw in their anecdotal two cents, sharing their uncomfortable experiences with police as black males. Marcus Unquote As per the link provided by Marcus just above, Obama has taken the unprecedented step of sending 3 White-House (apart from the role of his special advisor, the famous Reverend, in the drama) to attend Brown’s funeral – all 3 are black – and white people shiver that they will be accused of racism! Part of my response to the above: But just incidental to Marcus’ information above, I am producing a similar piece (it is shared with a similar-minded Indian friend I acquired during my many years in India for job purposes) -- A rich European NGO came to a slum in India to educate and improve them. The slum-lord without whose permission nothing can be done there, has 3 known wives (and god knows how many illegal ones). He suggested a simple solution: “spend 10 -12% of your huge kitty on a few binges of food and cheap alcohol for the people you want to uplift; they will be happy because they don’t like to learn but consume. Divide remaining money into 2 parts, one for me, the other amongst all of you.” They said, “Ours is a long term project, we want to teach these illiterate people how to live”. He answered: “Bloody idiots! If these people improve where will I go? My huge money, leadership position, clout, boot-legging, everything depends on their votes which depend on their being illiterate worms.” India and US are so far apart in terms of development as to be different universes – yet they have some similarities too – that is because of democracy which leads to similar behavior of power-hungry politicians. Democracy is a fertile ground for the breeding and prosperous nurture of these scoundrels (referred to by Marcus and Booker Washington), the Sharptons and Jacksons -- but the list of whites pointed out by me (Wilson, FDR, JFK, LBJ to today) is far more pernicious; the drama is far more paying to them than Sharptons and Jacksons and Obamas. Merely cursing them or even removing them is of no use, democracy will ensure that they will be replaced by equivalents; democracy necessitates need for evils such as today’s reverse racism on whites (as per Marcus “despicable exploitation of the goodness of the American people”). DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE UNDONE Unquote The racial division is now substantial – the three core values of TPM are mainly held by whites (and therefore they are called as “racists”) and non-whites mainly vote for their destruction. And as Marcus says, issues like Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown are frequently blown only for vested interests. Several policies of Dems are adopted purely with race in mind (example increasing their voters by Latino immigration). The individualist Americans’ (mainly white Americans’) response to all the above is captured in one statement by a member on TP Patriots: "unfortunately liberals have played the race game so well and so long that we are all fearful of being labeled racist" – this is a gross understatement, the whites hold a huge undeserved guilt about slavery and are going overboard in making up for it, almost to the extent of getting America destroyed – If they know the reality (which I am presenting) they will be shell-shocked about the falsification: they are the greatest and only emancipators in mankind’s history while slavery and prejudice are very normal all over the earth even today! I agree that one has to show that he is not being racist while bringing out the contribution of race to today’s slide – but if the topic is completely banned it will never be exposed. I will offer my write-up with proofs and within limits of not making any racist remarks – and every statement will be logically proved. My OP on the topic is in reality an Introduction to a long write-up; unfortunately because of the huge misunderstandings about this topic I had to write an introduction to the introduction! Please remember – the topic is too complex, half page posts will get us nowhere except criticizing the opponents within our own cadres who already know it all. Long write-up is needed to undo democracy and you will have to be patient with my writing. Accordingly I am starting a separate OP in the à Productivity à Member Writing section.
  4. Reason Man

    Modifying Christianity to save America

    ‘Challenge to hi-fi’ in this post will give the reader idea of severity of America’s problems today. Response took time because I waited for late comments and then other distractions came in; also this is a difficult topic. (Answers to main comments -- danb1215 on Freesteader, Lizzie and Bob Newton on TPN, Nicky and Secondhander on Obj Online are given in this post. But being longish, the most important part, viz. ‘Challenge to hi-fi groups’ is given below, rest is available in the link http://share.cx.com/5bFYWm ) danb1215 on Freesteader: I can't keep up with all of the acronyms and abbreviations. I bet you're fascinating in person. Acronyms, defined at the first occurrence, are used to shorten already long post. ASP is Anglo Saxon Protestant; FFs is Founding Fathers; DDVB of P is Doles Dependent Vote Block of Parasites; for hi-fi see ahead, though many people understood it. Challenge to hi-fi: In my criticism of hi-fi, O’ists are generally used as example for two reasons: One that I came from that side and started net-discussions on Ayn Rand forums; second that they are very strong in denouncing anybody that does not conform to their line of thinking (like the O’ist comment again disparaging Christianity on an OP explaining the latter’s contribution to America!) But the criticism is applicable to all hi-fi groups to the extent they divide the individualists. One more point: Net-forums, meant to discuss a particular philosophy, should allow reasonable criticism -- either refute it or accept it as improvement. Instead some O’ists debarred me for deviating from the line of their leaders, started campaign etc. Hi-fi are small groups of conservative, free-market etc intellectuals and think tanks like O’ists, Austrian economists, C4L (Ron Paul), Libertarian & Constitution Party, Cato, Heritage and many others (all catering primarily to middle and upper class Americans) who fight irreconcilably over real issues, but which are trivial when compared with the fact that the two equally bad political parties are competing to convert White House into Kremlin or Vatican. Hi-fi teach man’s rights, capitalism, anti-doles etc only amongst the middle and upper classes, but never where most needed, the lowest strata. In effect they they make no positive contribution but strengthen divisions in the middle-classes where unity against larger evil is badly needed. I will elucidate further on what hi-fi groups do with the example of the issue of race, but will be very brief here (I have lot more writing on this issue but no exposure, no support): A proper analysis of race will surprise people that even Af-Ams have lost (apart from huge injustice to whites), and have just been used as pawns by politicians. Only dishonesty and irrationality have gained, along with welfare state and big government taking America to collapse. Today Af-Ams are heavily criminalized (police records will give stats) and middle-classes hate them; but the Af-Ams too were far better off prior to civil rights movement used for expanding the government. Says one black writer Walter Willaims, “The welfare state did to the blacks what slavery could not do, that is to destroy the black family”. Distrust and hatred between races regularly surfaces during cases like GZ-TM, George Zimmerman–Trayvon Martin case recently. Majority of Af-Ams belong in the lowest 30-35% bracket which I have said above (see full version) is used to promote evil. The emancipated Af-Ams have been made voting-slaves of Dems, while the Reps have grabbed the middle-classes. I can prove all this, but here the purpose is not to talk about race per se, nor of how evil politicians increased welfare state by destroying Af-Ams, but the overall behavior of hi-fi, (with O’ists as example) including their response to the issue of race. Today it needs to be said, for the purpose of keeping America stable and united, that there is something terribly wrong with prevalent ideas about race and that the issue needs to be studied properly, and those who encourage minorities against whites have to be punished. But just talk about opening the issue for study and see how packs of wolves attack you! To capture minorities as their vote-block the Dems heap unlimited doles, justify all their misbehavior and fan hatred of whites. (White backlash is also seen against this once in a while.) What do the O’ists (and other hi-fi) do about it? Just as they attack white middle-classes (Christian nutters, libertarian hippies, “Ron Paul should go” etc), so also they admonish the middle and upper classes with their allegedly hi-fi views about race which serve evil. They are not seen talking much (in fact almost anything at all) against minority criminality, minority racism, anti-America activities (La Raza) of a minority or about Dems abetting it. Therefore I have to now challenge them as follows: Their allegedly hi-fi knowledge (man’s rights, capitalism etc) is more needed amongst the lowest strata, so let hi-fi go into the ghettos and advice them to give up demands for doles and give up criminality / drugs etc! Just as they deride “Christian nutters” let them tell the Af-Ams that their philosophy is anti-life and suicidal! If they appreciably educate the lowest strata who are Dems’ solid vote-block, I am sure that many Americans will join me in saluting them! I further challenge hi-fi: Since anti-white feelings have purposely been fanned in the ghettos, teach them, instead of merely admonishing white Christians, why they should not be racists. GZ-TM was the case over which entire America’s (and partly even international) attention was riveted, US President intervened by the side of “if I had a son” TM; hence possibility of wrong judgment was almost nil. If after the judgment in such a case black mobs vandalized and attacked “crackers”, drew blood from behind the slogan “This is for Trayvon”, then where is justice in America? The stats of black-crime are available – if one tried to defend himself, he had a choice of how to get killed – either by TM or by “this is for TM”. And they are said to be so weak that I become a racist when I talk about Reverse Racism against whites, allegedly because they have no power to do such evil things! I remember that a girl admitted that the word “cracker” is commonly used by them. I now challenge hi-fi to tell them that all this is way beyond what whites can do in their wildest imagination, and that whites are punished severely for almost nothing compared to these crimes! I didn’t see many comments against all this on hi-fi sites, particularly O’ist. When did they adopt the attitude of “See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil?” Where real education is needed (i.e. amongst the lowest strata), do all their moral tenets such as “One should always speak out”, consciousness is identification etc vanish? Will they make similar disparaging comments about the lowest strata as they make about white middle-classes? Yet the worst about this case is not over, see ahead. Dilution of challenge: OK hi-fi, you cannot do anything out of the above then I will dilute my challenge: don’t criticize minorities, don’t educate them, merely do one thing – stay in their midst, stay at the center of a ghetto. As further dilution, stay even at its edge but within a ghetto! Cannot accept even this? But that is the place where real change, education etc is required. So you want to live within protective zone of whites, mainly “Christian nutters”, and also destroy their world, undercut them, backstab them because they take no action against you for one-sided bad criticism? And you should also be venerated as purveyors of hi-knowledge? Now let us see the response of middle and upper class America to the phenomenon. GOP is making false noise of reducing the government and using the helpless middle-classes as their vote-block to carry out their huge private agenda, describing which will require a separate book! (Their agenda of school-prayers, gay marriage etc is meant only to retain this vote-block.) And despite their intention of bringing in small government, fiscal responsibility etc, the tea-partiers also have no solution to the solidly united block of parasites versus the solidly divided block of individualists aggravated by democracy’s freedom to all to foment divisions. Their criticizing small-time politicians, RINOs, the blatantly racist minorities, dictators all over the earth etc are of no use. They are also partly playing blame-game while traveling downward along with whole of America. (From what I sumise, their’s is a rebellion against both the parties, though they are tilted towards GOP.) But the intellectuals have failed them and they too are in the same trap of getting divided due to inability to answer Dems’ doles gambit! Therefore, so that the reader may know what trap America is in, I also urge him to consider the above challenge, viz. changing the lowest strata by educating them, and if not possible then just staying in their midst. Then the reader will come to know just the start of America’s problems. Democracy twists and magnifies problems, creates new problems, etc but DDVB of P is the start of problems. Then the reader will realize that without touching the core of the problem all of them are just playing a child’s game within their own groups. Because of its unity the DDVB of P is the most efficient tool of evil to destroy the good; historically (since Greek and Roman times) no solution has been found to it. And if others abstain from voting due to disillusionment then DDVB of P decides who will rule America! So far there are only 2 ways known of dealing with the lowest strata, both leading to bad consequences: 1. Use them as vote-block to grab power -- the requirement for this is to satisfy their ever-increasing demands and vicious behavior, leading to victory of evil over good; 2. Suppress them physically because they refuse education, self-reliance etc – but this may lead to civil war because the power-seekers will side them! (Julius Caesar was born out of this, and as Stack said, they are coming in America too!) There are also 1-2 other ways, but they are part of my solution below. Today the matters have gone far beyond and America seems to be just some time away from collapse – there are many signs of this, following are just samples: Earlier the thought of American President bending in front of the advanced Europeans was shameful – now the rulers seek savages to bend in front of, because commies and Sheikhs are their bankers! But why did you land America into that debt, Sir? There is neither willingness nor way to come out of that debt; and though everybody has adopted ostrich-attitude, soon reality will prevail when world will discard the toilet-paper, and then all hell will break loose. Other signs like bail-out plutocracy and rule of oligarchs, war-mongering with army in 125 countries, spying, tapping mails and phones are a-galore; Right to bear arms which FFs called as ultimate defense against govt (so much they were against an expanding govt), too is being taken away, like precaution before final assault. But two events are competing for the position of top-most sign of fall: First, the Dems invited the UN to referee in America’s internal affairs, like inviting the serpent to resolve internal fight of frogs – and yet Obama was re-elected afterwards, thanks to DDVB of P. While the FFs wouldn’t allow Europeans on American soil, today they are inviting UN as judges! The FFs (and their knowledge) came from Europe – the UN is pure, naked, uneducated, uncivilized savages. Second, re-read details of GZ-TM case given above, the worst part is that the acquitted GZ had to go into hiding because of threats from mobs on rampage, and if politicians side such mobs as “weak” then where is justice and law in US, supposed to be the safest place on earth? Their flaunting vandalism against their emancipators was a purposeful defiance of America’s police apparatus and entire legal system, and perhaps Constitution itself, as if saying “We are well protected” and as if they knew who their protectors were. Dems siding them, and hi-fi always admonishing white middle-classes but never this behavior is tantamount to ‘hatred of the good for being the good”, whether conscious or unplanned – this is the main guilty party, not the uneducated mobs. Can you imagine Russia or China issuing such threats to an innocent American, and will he go into hiding? No, Russia-China are no match for America, but imagine Americans beaten by whom? The invincible, indomitable Americano who fought against the most powerful monarch of that time with a make-shift army of poor farmers, also rose against his own government when it imposed prohibition, dominates (at least so far) the world with his army in 125 countries, now being beaten merely by DDVB of P whom he emancipated -- merely being beaten by rogues and charlatans posing as politicians whose main power is DDVB of P! The world looks at them in awe, and see who is grounding them! Like the Greeks and the Romans pior to them, is Democracy the nemesis also of the Anglo Saxons? But Americano, the whole above underscores one point – the importance (which cannot be exaggerated) of one subject many of you deride – philosophy – Aristotle! Also note that I used race just as an example to bring out how the lowest strata is being used to destroy the good – the real culprits are charity, democracy, etc described in previous OP: Can Christianity, Locke, Ayn Rand, Von Mises save America? Solution consists of a powerful argument that will strongly unite middle-classes with a single prime aim – to self-righteously restore and defend the original FF-constitution even by waging a war if necessary. That is my ultimate compelling argument. But I have no locus standi; people have no time / interest to read more than a page. People can promote themselves if they join hands with me. But else I am finished with these forums which are not going to lead anywhere except downhill. (Some people have attached value to my writing; unfortunately it is negative because they are persecuting me to write against US – I don’t have the means even to bring this out somewhere; it would make a very good case!)
  5. MODIFYING CHRISTIANITY TO SAVE AMERICA This post is shortened to the extent possible. But the link to its longer version is given at the end. As part of comments on earlier OP “Can Christianity Locke Rand Mises Save America?” I said “Protestant religion is unique and a minor change can be made to it to save America”. There is extreme critical attitude amongst several intellectual groups about Christianity and a typical comment, partly quoted, was – “Christianity is THE problem with the West. On its own it is dangerous, but when you secularize it you get the Left. I doubt we would have seen a phenomenon like the Marxist Left without Christianity influencing the Western Mind.” Being a typical comment no personal affront is meant, but my mission being to forge unity amongst individualist Americans I have to refute it. Brief history of ancient church (important modifications relevant to our purpose here): Since its beginning Christianity was modified into different Churches like Greek, Russian, Syrian etc, including 2 – 3 denominations in India. The Roman Catholic Church is its major power; Plato was the most important influence during the thousand years of Dark Ages when there was total power in the hands of kings and priests and the intention was to misuse religion to destroy all Greek knowledge. Bhudevs, i.e. “Gods on earth” was the position of kings and priests, backed by theories of Divine Right of Kings. People lost faith and to justify Christianity Aquinas inducted the outlawed Aristotle. After centuries Aristotle displaced Plato, subsequently leading to Renaissance (rebirth of reason). ASPs built America by modifying Christianity Francis Bacon’s “nature to be commanded has to be obeyed”, coupled with Galileo case (symbolizing science versus religion and thought versus dogma), opened the surrounding phenomena to mankind. John Locke’s theory of mind being a blank tablet at birth is simultaneously a step (a Protest) against “Original Sin”, against Confessions and the king and the priest’s power over the individual. Adam Smith’s statement about “the butcher, the brewer and the baker” infused rational selfishness into society (called as “right to life” by the Founding Fathers (FFs) of the US). Aristotle made British Empire strongest on earth – yet they continued to be devout Christians. Final climax was in the New World – inalienable rights of an individual, even the monarch was done away with, and the Pastor was respected, but separated from political power. Protestant religion infused into Americans via upbringing, “way of life” etc, rationality and individualism, which rest of the world even today does not understand. I have lot of details about it. Catholics also had to change: The Roman Catholic Church was also compelled to undergo huge change and its political power is limited to the Vatican City only. In the same neighborhood they could not have completely opposite ways of life as compared to the reason and science based progress of Protestants. Therefore Europeans look different from rest of the mankind, and even Turkish Muslims are less fanatic than other Muslims. Religion necessary for a large section of society: Heroes contributed more in the transformation, but heroes are easily lynched by irrational societies (all over the earth and all through out history with the exception of Greek and present western civilization). After Aristotle’s induction to justify Christianity it was the suppressed middle-classes seeking freedom who supported change via the Protestant religion – and it would not be rational or civilized to rob them of due credit. Several examples involving Plato, Aristotle, Locke, Ayn Rand, Von Mises etc are given to show why a large number of people do not understand “hi-fi” philosophy. Of these see the one involving Ayn Rand. Office colleagues were already against me because of Ayn Rand stuff, and somebody circulated my copy of her book on epistemology amongst engineers to show the first page which said: HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT WE KNOW? That is the problem that epistemology deals with – and upon the solution of this problem every other aspect of philosophy must rest. Unquote. Did they garland me because I was reading “epistemology”? They started pointing fingers, joking, giggling etc. Example: How do you know the building you are designing will stand? Does its foundation rest on a solid philosophy or only on soil? Etc. They were engineers of the same quality as Indians in the West, but had not migrated. From that judge what will be the reaction of people with much lesser intelligence at the bottom of society! See other examples in the long version. Do all people have so much of intelligence to differentiate between this and Kant? Ordinary people need philosophy to be given in terms of do’s and don’ts of ethics, usually AS RELIGION! But below the middle-classes to the lowest strata of society, the doles dependent vote block of parasites (DDVB of P) that Mitt Romney was afraid of, the response to hi-fi theories is “Fxxx them all but give me my 3 three meals”. The middle-classes who can understand some rationality and civilization oppose the parasites of DDVB of P but need guidance. Good philosophy was passed onto ordinary people by modifying Christianity, and by infusing science and rationality into Protestant religion. All religions are similar and cannot be wished away from earth – theoretically they are also similar to Marxism. But there is a big crucial difference between today’s Christianity versus other religions, which we are discussing at the moment. (The following is addressed to hi-fi: Marxists also tried to erase religion out of existence, but lost while religion remained; in the past the Romans were swept over by Christianity despite crucifixion. Religion does satisfy the need of a huge section of society, so transform it. The Founding Fathers (FFs) of US, very devout Christians, found a different solution – so follow their path, thankfully, instead of grandiose illusions of cleansing the earth of religion.) The big question: the founding generations of the US were fanatics by today’s standards. Then how did they build America? Will any other religion, Marxism etc, similar to Christianity, be able to build America? Wall of Separation makes Protestant religion unique and enables both, creators and ordinary “believers”, to practice what they want: ASPs could build because of the magnanimous FF-Constitution which ensured unalienable rights of an individual, guaranteed freedom of thought and kept religion out of government. Against that GOP is using today’s Christians as its vote-block based on issues of gay marriage and school prayers, against the Dems’ DDVB of P. Americans have to think why their ancestors sacrificed so much if power was finally to be returned back to the political manipulator and the priest – just so as to destroy everything by bringing in the next Dark Ages? Jefferson’s Wall of Separation between state and church was the great achievement that made America possible. While all science, intelligence etc were fully unchained and active, believers also lived as per their beliefs, i.e. both were able to live as per their mind. Further modification necessary today because Christianity insufficient due to weakness This weakness is already described in the previous post, viz misuse of Charity: No opposition is possible by GOP who has to only me-too when Dems assert self-righteously: “Yes! We are carrying out America’s sacred duty of helping the poor!” (To retain their Christian vote-block GOP indulges in war-mongering and bail-out plutocracy.) Why not “Hi-fi” philosophies but only modifying Christianity will help? Because mass-support is indispensable to implement and sustain political rule. Great feats are achieved by individuals, but creation is possible only in a society of rational human beings, not of savages. A rational society in itself is a value to be cherished and preserved. No matter how great the creator is, he derives lot of benefit from a rational society – his vision started with the work of others prior to him. As world history shows, except for ancient Greece and modern America, the “thinking individual” is always and very easily crushed on earth. “We the Living” is Ayn Rand’s conceptual autobiography; see such people’s fate there. People like me who live away from America know the value of those “low level Christians”. Till those “low level Christians” follow the FFs’ Constitution give them their due; don’t rob them of that credit. One reason why Washington was a great general was that he knew that every soldier was precious; he visited them many times to keep their morale intact! Most of them must have been devout Christians and bereft of hi-fi philosophy! It is the Protestants who built America; it is with their help that she will be saved. One reason why American think-tanks will not get solution to democracy’s problems is because they don’t take reality of social gradations into account, and the fact that when evil uses the lowest strata to destroy civilization, it is the middle class (mainly Christians) that will save it if proper guidance is available. This is explained next. Society is not an undifferentiated mass of savages (unless evil philosophy makes all of them evil): (This is a very important point the hi-fi have missed.) All societies have a graded structure of individuals of different characteristics, qualities, mental orientation and capabilities. Plato has called the divisions as Men of Gold, Silver and Bronze; Christianity has divided them into clergy, nobility and commoners / tradesmen; India’s Brahmins have 4 major castes, etc. Apart from individual heroes’ theories, politics is more determined by playing these social divisions against each-other and against the good. Direction of society is generally determined by the interplay of good and evil at the upper levels (Men of Gold and Silver, top 15% of society). Evil is distributed everywhere from top to bottom of the social pyramid; but intelligence varies from more at the top to so very low amongst the lowest strata that they can easily be misused for destruction by promoting collectivist theories via them like demanding doles, worship of primitive gods and religions, etc – which is what intelligent evil men at upper levels strive to do forever. The middle-classes support the good, but only till the tops keep bringing solutions to social problems – the moment the good fails to bring in solutions, as is the case in America after New Deal, evil taps the lowest strata to overturn rule of rationality. That lowest stratum has now become the solidly united DDVB of P, leaving only a small chance for recovery. Minorities (the evil ones amongst Plato’s Men of Gold and Silver) grabbing power is true of overwhelmingly major part of mankind’s history because they have never had good philosophy – in today’s America it would be because of default by hi-fi philosophers. Otherwise even in today’s democracy American Christian middle-classes, the most enlightened people on earth, could provide the numbers needed to stop America’s slide. Instead of solution GOP is using them as its vote-block for its vested interest, axing the base of America from the side opposite to Dems. Hi-fi not understood freedom of mind: ß this is the root of innumerable divisions amongst individualists, and inability of hi-fi to stop slide despite their “shining, latest, hi-fi philosophies” – and also the root of victory of evil. Extreme criticism about each-other and about Christianity shows that hi-fi people have neither understood implications of freedom of mind, nor what is real evil and how to tackle it. I have chosen Christians because apart from numbers they have many virtues stated all over this post. In reality it is necessary to unite all individualist-groups. If people accept my writing then I intend to ban even preaching Christianity via government despite freedom of speech (so as to undo the welfare state forever), which neither the FFs nor the new heroes of individualist-Americans could do, despite both intending to do so! Violating the FFs’ constitution is the real act of enmity, which both Dems and GOP are doing for a long time now. America was not defeated by original Marxism (blood-rivers variety), but via welfare state the whole communist agenda is in (and debt is ballooning beyond control)! Understanding the finer points of difference is key to the issue. The magnanimity of FFs’ Constitution is responsible for both, America’s greatness, as well as today’s unstoppable slide. It is important to block both, welfare state as well as induction of religion into government. American Christians are likely to accept rational argument, but not DDVB of P who may lead to collapse. Hi-fi experts too may not accept rational argument, rather their small-time ego needs that innovator be blocked! Further thoughts on why Christianity will continue, the future of small groups and their “hi-fi” philosophies, etc: O’ism, Austrian school etc are not mass-movements; Ayn Rand’s novels are anti-masses. But foolishly the O’ists assume that O’ism will sweep the earth. It is like expecting ordinary people to solve all problems in mathematics and surpass Einstein! Ayn Rand and Von Mises will both get their place in academics but sweeping the earth is monopoly of mass-philosophies like religion. (I owe everything to Ayn Rand but don’t go overboard about her status.) The mass of American individualists are necessary to sustain America; Ayn Rand’s novels too, including their anti-masses orientation, are necessary because the qualities she evokes in men are different from the masses – their peaceful co-existence and complementing each-others’ advantages is made possible by the FFs’ Constitution! To conclude: It is the ASPs who built America; it is they who will save her. When polarization is complete (may take decades if nothing changes the course) and mobs are on the streets, majority of hi-fi will desert. To save America it is merely necessary to restore the FFs’ constitution. For me “Long Live America” is a very serious quest because of my Hindu experiences. With my argument, it may take at the most a year for the change to occur. IMPORTANT à If anybody joins hands with me, they too can promote their group / endeavor while serving the highest cause of reclaiming America. Long version of this file is available by ctrl + clicking on: http://share.cx.com/H2DPSh You need not have a cx.com account, just ctrl + click on the link, then on download.
  6. S/WNerd, thanks to you and several others for taking time to read the file, though yours was the only reply. This post / file was a follow-up to a previous post I made on other boards. You can see it and the replies to it Title: CAN CHRISTIANITY, JOHN LOCKE, VON MISES, AYN RAND OR ANY COMBINATION SAVE AMERICA? http://www.solopassion.com/node/9748 Another reason why I referred to it is because my next post will be built on several replies to my statement in the discussion that modifying Christianity should save America beyond this point. My next post will be explaining that statement. Please read.
  7. The attached file is a brief study (my original writing) of a typical Dem-President after the New Deal. See Link -- http://share.cx.com/fkGKJ (you do not require CX account, password etc, just click the link and click Download). It describes the politicians promoted by democracy who have displaced the Founding Fathers (FFs) – FFs have no chance against them because of the doles dependent vote block of parasites and the divisions amongst individualists. The description / derivation leads to what I have called as “the ultimate compelling argument” against the welfare state, which I claim will even prohibit preaching charity via government despite freedom of thought and expression! After full derivation a sentence at the end says that the Dems want to be Brahmin Bhudevs (gods on earth), but for which they have to destroy all capability in America first.
  8. Reason Man

    Radicals for Capitalism?

    VcatoV: America was too big a happening in man-kind’s history – the climax of rational man’s aspirations for civilization, as I have called it elsewhere. It could not have got built over-night, nor could it have got destroyed so easily – it has withstood huge erosion / onslaught, and even today standing as the greatest country with several positive attributes – but today severely eroded and in danger also. To talk about it (i.e. to describe the phenomenon of America), to reform it for the better etc, cannot be done so very easily, the way we see discussions on internet forums – there are a few sincere attempts (one of them being yours), but some of them go awry because they do not start with the very basic fundamentals (you have gone upto Greece / Rome etc), else they simply get drowned in the din of the trivia that goes all around. To talk about America one has to go the very bottom (i.e. talk in terms of fundamentals) – how did this phenomenon, so very different from the rest of the world, come into existence in the first place? What did it / does it depend on? Then one will come to the conclusion about “inalienable rights of an individual”, freedom of speech and so on, i.e. a democracy / republic (there is confusion about the terminology starting with founding fathers of the US who referred to both the words to describe it. But we can get it clarified in due course.) Then one will realize that only 3 civilizations so far reached a meaningful democracy – Greece, Rome and now western. These 3 have a distinguishing feature as compared to the rest of the world, viz. that reason / logic was discovered – and meaningfully advanced -- only in Greece upto today’s western. Aristotle has made the most important difference! (You will see this theme all over Ayn Rand, but in particular read comparison between Plato and Aristotle in “For the New Intellectual”, every achievement of civilization has Aristotle at its base, “never have so many owed so much to one man”, etc. Post Kant, westerners not only lost Aristotle, but substantially even the Aristotelian sense of life, and what you are calling as capitalism today is merely the remnants of that sense of life. Ayn Rand re-discovered him for all of us. This theme is brought out in detail by me – and today’s erosion can only be explained / stemmed by getting Aristotle, i.e. reason, back into main-stream life. This is also the reason to talk about crisis of intelligence.) Only after having seen all the above one can talk about why did America start eroding to the extent that today its almost on the brink – then one will find that all 3 civilizations reached upto this point, viz. democracy, and then collapsed. Why? Because democracy is fertile ground for moral degeneration, this group you call as hedonists (etc) comes to the fore and determines the govt --- and so on. Only after studying this aspect to the necessary extent one can think of how to overcome it. Without doing all this its very foolish to engage in why GOP attacked Iraq, why Dems increased welfare etc. Their behavior is standard described by Plato step by step, so old it is – and Romans, America’s Founding Fathers etc everybody has studied them also (Washington was a fan of Cato), but so far solution has not been arrived at. If you take up these day to day issues, they will go into so many directions of discussions (with every Tom and Dick interfering and steering discussion to his ideas) – till you finally give up, thinking this is all senseless realm. If you have a great philosophy – e.g. Objectivism – that also does not work, because, as you pointed out, the hedonists laugh at you and your “great philosophy” + they overwhelm you with their numbers, you are nothing in front of them. It is under all these conditions that I am trying to propose a solution to this problem – but I am myself under victimization / persecution here, ours being a fanatic society, my family back-ground being very bad etc. Also: I am not “one of you people”, this too has an effect no matter peoples’ stance to the opposite, and they tend to neglect me. But note the few effects of not starting from such fundamentals, I have pointed in the link given to you – today, there is a huge fight to save capitalism by its alleged defenders (GOP making big noise about it) versus its total annihilation to save the people from its ill-effects like today’s recession! Capitalism in US has died decades back, and we are seeing recessions, corruption etc due to American socialism, and knowledgeable people are defending capitalism! The other example: The American is the greatest emancipator on earth – but today the white man is fighting to save himself from the emancipated people against allegations of being a racist oppressor, the noise reverberating all over the earth. All such things will get erased because of my approach of starting from fundamentals. Having shown so much, I had like to hear something more from your side. See if you can take some time off.
  9. Reason Man

    Radicals for Capitalism?

    Jay R: If you don’t vote, you have already given up the fight – as a rational citizen you don’t give up so soon, till there is a chance to fight. As per Ms Rand, you vote for the least evil, which is a very sensible principle. If Objectivists were to fight on their own, they would get very few votes -- far from being popular, as I read on some forums, they are quite unpopular, the Libertarians are better off on this score. So they have to “choose the least evil” of the two equally bad big parties. We are now talking about forging a third alternative which could be far less evil than these two – there is not much choice about this, and the whole thing is not in your hands whether to compromise or no, except for trying to do the best, and restricting evil the most. The principle most applicable of the three in Anatomy of Compromise is the third one: when basic principles are clearly defined it works to the advantage of the rational side, other-wise to that of the irrational. So you declare your principles, disagreements etc clearly, and state the reasons and the extent for joining hands with those nearest to your position. About “Communists have finally entered the White-House” – You are aware that GOP is banking on Christianity, war-mongering and consequent debt-mountain etc (contrary to Founding Fathers’ principle of “least wars”, they have taken over all of Europeans’ colonies as the sole super-power – but have pushed America into debt that could lead the country to collapse). Democrats depend on socialism as their election pitch – their social security, protection and massive payments to unionized workers, health-care bill, etc is way beyond communist Russia and China’s policies of welfare. Over and above this they have declared their intention to re-distribute top Americans’ wealth to rest of the society, which they are already trying to do. They have proclaimed communists in their group – a thing unimaginable in America even a decade back! VcatoV: Thanks for one of the few encouraging responses to my endeavors -- we will continue the dialogue for several days, to know our thoughts, because this topic is quite complex, and being important, not to be given up so soon. Several of your present questions here would have got solved had you clicked that link given by me. If you want to go there the other way, then it is the post “Socio-Political Situation in the US” by Reason Man (i.e. myself), in the > Philosophy > Political Philosophy section, and in response to Maximus’ reply to OP, I have pasted the entire write-up there. Plato has made his prediction about democracy in The Republic, and it is quoted in this post. It is certain section of society, called as Group G1 there, which is universally recognized, that takes up to hedonism (and other vices including parasitism / dependence on welfare state etc) because democracy and efforts of rational men make it possible for them to demand this. As people belonging to Group G2 (described there), we have to devise the means to overcome this. This is briefly described there, but basically this is a big topic and I have got a write-up showing how democracy is brought in by heroes, how this group (you call as hedonists) kills it, who aids them for what purposes, how democracy leads to moral degeneration, facilitates the rise of today’s cheap politicians as compared to yesterday’s Founding heroes …. And so on and on. All of this is classical and not limited to today’s America – and Augustine type of men cash in on it, calling it as “human nature”, the vice of the flesh etc. But I urge you to read my post in the Political Philosophy section given above. And I will get back to you on the email.
  10. Reason Man

    Radicals for Capitalism?

    Nobody is making or preaching any compromises. One has to LOUDLY declare one's own premises, maintain philosophical differences -- and let it be known properly that of the available choices I choose this one because it is the least offensive or evil from my point of view. When you vote either for a Democrat or a Republican what big purity of philosophy do you maintain? They hold the same premises as Objectivism -- so that the communists have finally entered the white house? I suggest that you re-read "Anatomy of Compromise" particularly with reference to declaring one's premises properly. In the present case, your choices are limited, and you have to vote to register your political voice -- so its better to choose the least evil. Also read the given link, will give more info on my stand.
  11. Reason Man

    Radicals for Capitalism?

    VcatoV (and others sharing the enthusiasm): That letter to Beck at a very young age is quite impressive -- the mark of a good politician / worker in the making. (I saw it only today else I would have got in touch earlier). Unfortunately, I did not see any follow-up action. Your analysis about democracy is quite correct, but only in parts, because it is not holistic. You will not believe, but the best civilizations (namely Greek and Roman -- and today Western) have collided against this problem AND COLLAPSED. One of the best studies of this problem belongs to Plato -- yeah, it is as old as that -- who very correctly predicted the way Rome collapsed, and today GOP and Dems are behaving! Exact path has been described by him to surprising accuracy. I am myself studying this problem -- because some people here (in India) value what we got from the English and Americans a lot. I am starved to discuss this problem. There is one VERY IMPORTANT statement in your post: "But, once again, I have disagreements" (with the tea-partiers). This is an important reason (apart from 1 – 2 others) why Good gets defeated by Evil when a democracy is eroding. The good fail to join hands over minor points of differences -- the Evil surely join hands because they have a single agenda -- to defeat the good, and to loot them as much as possible, by joining hands. Today America is failing because of this point - it is that important. Another statement: "My desire is to unite and make active Radicals for Capitalism". I take you are sincere about this and I would like to be in touch with you about it for some future co-operation. One caveat is: Do not start going into strong arguments / opposition over some points, but look at the bigger, overall picture / position / argument – and then finally decide what is possible (or not at all). As a starter, I urge you to see my post on the same topic in Philosophy / Political Philosophy on this forum – Link: http://forum.ObjectivismOnline.com/index.php?showtopic=19427
  12. Reason Man

    Socio-Political Situation in the US

    Maximus Thanks. That was good advice. There is also a post by VcatoV about deterioration of democracy (his letter to Glenn Beck which I read after making this post) -- he and the responders there seem to be quite enthusiastic, I want to draw their attention, if something can be done. Is the Current Political Turmoil in America an outcome of Intellectual Paralysis? The current recession has deepened the social divide in the US to really worrisome levels. People are cursing and abusing rulers in manners fitting to primitive societies. Though talks of secession, separate currencies, call to arms etc are just surfacing (i.e. in initial stages only), yet the undertone is quite ominous. This is because of the nature of recession and government’s response to it, mainly intrusion into business, and the level of infringements made by the government over citizens’ rights. And the economic recovery is likely to be dangerous – a bigger dip seems to be in the offing, because of irrational “solutions” like “pump-priming”, “stimulus” etc. (PS: While posting this piece, they have just injected $1 trillion (!) to make up for Europeans’ latest irresponsibility.) It is time to review why “the greatest country in the history of mankind” is in such a bad / dangerous state. The major cause I see is Intellectual Paralysis. The genesis of this crisis is not without precedence in history – rather it is repetitious, analyzed to some extent in the past (from where men had effected improvements like the Founding Fathers of US studying Roman Republic), and well documented. But men have never completely overcome it – because they have never fully understood it – and the same evil has been defeating civilization again and again – and every time it strikes, the intellectuals go helter-skelter. If we take a review of mankind’s history since primordial times, this aspect will become clear. Note: While reading this write-up please note: Mankind’s progress is a tortuous struggle from ignorance towards enlightenment, in which the better men had to pay for every achievement. So while the progress made by some tribe / civilization is lauded, its lacks have to be looked at as a legacy of past darkness. An example of this, referred to below, is the abolition of slavery achieved by the Americans. Progress towards it started since times of Greek democracy, but from Greeks to Jefferson, everybody owned slaves – this was because of a darker legacy over which they achieved progress. Same applies to their being “Christians” – that was a legacy of the past over which they achieved substantial, but unfortunately, not full progress. Also Note: A small part of this write-up was presented on some forums, so may be a bit repetitious. But it is necessary for the important conclusion of intellectual paralysis at the end. Acronyms like 2EBBPs (= GOP & Dems), FFs, FF-Govt, LT0.5%Gs are defined in the write-up. Tribal Life and Start of Liberty: The tribal life, mainly based on hunting, automatically had to be a combination of freedom and controls. Everyone had to contribute, except in times of incapacitation (like pregnancy, ill-health etc). Further, the tribal had to remain bound to the tribe because man was quite fragile in front of the animals of prey – he did not have their special tools such as fangs, claws, muscles and speed – so numbers and joint action was his only means of survival. But when the tribes settled as agrarian societies leading to separate families, primitive professions like black-smith, private ownership etc, individualism crept in because mind came to be much more relied on as the means of survival as compared to the collective action of the tribal hunters. The mind does not work collectively, it is an attribute of the individual – hence difference in performance and out-put, and so individualism. Even though today’s theories of individualism were not developed in tribal times, the individual-versus-tribe clash is seen as developing since then – Homer’s Achilles is an example when he decried: “I do the maximum work, but the booty is shared equally”. (Note: Looting other tribes is not individualism, but it was their established “way of life” – Achilles’ argument was individualism creeping in.) Individualism implies men dealing with each-other only based on mutual consent and not imposing their thoughts on anybody else. It means liberty of each man from other men. (On one O’ist site they were discussing how land ownership came into existence – the above is how it literally “crept in” all over the earth, independent in each society of other societies.) Liberty is the best for individuals and for civilizations to prosper. The way good men could have achieved liberty from the tribe is by means of knowledge, which the agrarian societies had started developing. But since then evil men have been striving to destroy knowledge. This is the essence of the fight between good and evil since tribal times -- good men seeking Liberty versus the evil ones binding them to a collective by destroying knowledge. Since majority of men are not evil (but philosophy imposed on them makes them fanatic) and endeavor to live a peaceful life independent of each other, evil men and criminals pose a limited threat that can be countered by joint action of instituting a good government. (A lot of men become immoral during degeneration of democracies – and real danger to better men comes from evil intellectuals). A good government protects citizens’ lives and earnings from internal and external aggression and fraud, but does not violate their liberty! To form a good government takes a lot of knowledge, which is very difficult to achieve -- but easy to destroy, more so because even good men are not infallible. Only when evil takes over government, it binds society into such a vicious circle (by imposition of evil philosophy) that it is difficult to overcome it -- and therefore evil has ruled much longer over human societies than good. Religion and its doing: In their quest for knowledge, the path of primitive men was blocked by a phenomenon that developed simultaneously all over the world (but independent of each other) and came to be known as “Religion”. White people are well aware of what “Dark Ages” had reduced them to, against their today’s strength – but this is not specific to “Christian welfare”, it’s the same with all other “pious religions”, perhaps more gruesome and destructive. Despite their wars with each-other (and superficial differences), religions share common tenets, the most important of which is the base of their political system that ego being the root of all evil on earth, it should be crushed. By ego and selfishness what they mean is man’s Liberty. Binding men into vicious circle of its murderous philosophy, religion took away everything, including men as slaves, for thousands of years in some cases. Religion is the first major, large-scale instance of collapse of civilization at the hands of evil. (The reason for different religions’ uniform victory all over the earth, independent of each-other, is important for study purposes, and is given ahead.) The Exception of Greeks and Romans: One great attempt at liberty was made by the Greeks. They first conceived (to the extent of their knowledge, though slavery too existed), a government that granted freedom and equality at least to all “free men” -- democracy of unlimited majority rule. Based on the Greek experience, the Romans developed a Republic with provisions against misuse of power. Since the Romans too were not infallible, they started slipping at some stage; war-mongering eroded the economy and gave way to misuse of power, leading to several internal fights till the Republic transformed into a dictatorship. Society degenerated and was soon taken over by Christianity leading to “The Dark Ages”. (Christianity could not have conquered them without internal fights and degeneration of the republic.) Knowledge was destroyed to the extent that, whether the earth is round and moves round the sun or vice-versa, became an issue that vigorously agitated entire Europe – despite the heights reached by Greeks! Re-discovery of Republic After organized religion had its run of evil (complete destruction of knowledge and individual liberty), Europeans took an inventory why “pious religion” degenerated to such lowly depths of immorality on all fronts – and concluded – absolute power in the hands of priests and no Liberty to individuals, was the cause for it. This brought into consideration, the Roman Republic, and despite some lacunae, the American Republic was the best amongst all rules achieved by men so far, and conformed to what better Americans are today striving for: Small restrained government and maximum freedom to the individual. Ahead, I have called it as the FF-Govt, established by the Founding Fathers (FFs) of US. These three rules – Greek, Roman and modern western have brought in most of mankind’s knowledge, which is why most of the world is copying them today. Same Evil Strikes again – but Mankind Refuses to Learn – And so also the Intellectuals: Evil had to strike again – but because the doings of the priests had been exposed it had to adopt a new form, like old wine in new bottle. This came in two variants: Communism and Welfare-state. Politically, both are the same as religion that man should give up his freedom to serve the collective. Like the religionists they too use allegations against the ego as their excuse for abolishing man’s Liberty. The two look different because communism usurps brazenly and glaringly while welfare-state is imperceptible slow-poisoning. That state-ownership of the means of production (i.e. denying liberty to the individual) does not work at all, but rather it is a concept purposefully propagated by the evil for collapse of society, is amply demonstrated in modern times – dissolution of Soviet Russia is just one instance of it – even with the maximum amount of natural resources available to a totalitarian super-power, they still collapsed. Prior to collapse they repeated religion’s feat of mass-murder: the state taking over everything that belonged to the citizens, including even the citizens as slaves – they had harems, stud-farms, palaces, slaves and even gold-lined tunnels; and not merely the top rulers but all levels of hierarchy. Today, Russia and China continue being communists and also boast of the most dynamic stock exchanges, inducting every institution of capitalism! The whole communist movement forms an important message for mankind. Men gave up everything and fought wars for the communists. The murderous state took everything, never gave anything till it collapsed! There is only one shocking observation – that mankind refuses to learn anything from that murderous movement going on for more than 200 years now! Therefore, there is an even more important message in this matter – especially to intellectuals working for reforms in American governance: Today it is beyond doubt that the majority doesn’t want to learn from 200 years of open display (and numerous examples) of this murder and destruction – it is not so in the illiterate, starved populaces of undeveloped countries, but is seen in the (once) enlightened masses of western countries. Despite the murders of communists, the westerners insist on treading the same path via the welfare-state alternative – and the slide has accelerated after the dissolution of Soviet Russia. Therefore those wanting to reform the masses should learn that traditional solutions including “great philosophies” are not working – that they are wrong somewhere or missing something. (Their conceit may not allow them to accept it, but this is the fact.) Welfare-state’s slow-poisoning is more harmful. While the American Republic was formed as an FF-Govt, somewhere mid-way it was vitiated by “just a little bit” of welfare-statism because of the remnants of Christianity. This was continuously increased incrementally till the original republic is completely over-turned. The Russian press recently commented: 20 years after fall of Berlin wall the EU has now become EUSSR – and the US has far surpassed it! (One minor point – apart from the major one being handled here – the intellectuals keep engaging in arguments that still presume America to be a capitalist country – and instead of seizing the opportunity to attack American socialism, foolishly try to defend capitalism against today’s fall-out of that socialism, while the evil uses the situation to further bury capitalism! I am surprised by this – nobody has said that this recession is a failure of American socialism, not of capitalism -- that the grandeur belongs to remnants of 19th capitalism (which was mangled decades back), and failure to component of socialism being increased during those decades! Also note another point is very similar to this one: Today, racism simply means white-racism – one will be astonished, if a proper analysis is made, to know that the Anglo Saxons are the only and the greatest emancipator in the history of mankind – and the so emancipated people have today immobilized them by throwing dirtiest allegations of racism at them -- just minor instances of intellectual paralysis, nothing more.) Still, the important point is different – What American politicians have done is not a “first time genius” – they have just repeated a classic and well-documented performance! (This is the repetitious part, but needed for the intellectual paralysis shown after it.) See how old the original is: A man named Plato wrote, to surprising accuracy, what the Romans a few centuries later, and then the Americans 2400 years later, would exactly do -- only that intellectuals have not taken lessons out of history. (I am not an admirer of Plato’s philosophy; rather consider his “Philosopher-Ruler” to be every rational man’s biggest enemy. But Plato has made one of the most important and original comments on the decay of society, Greeks and Romans learnt a lot from it, and Americans from the Romans, like for example, Washington’s admiration of Cato. Yet nobody has been able to bring a solution to the problem of collapse of democracy.) Following statements are quoted serially (instead of paragraph) from his “The Republic”, followed by my comments: Comments on Quotes about Democracy And The “Collapse Clause”: Statement: The characteristic of the democracy is equal freedom and open speech to all, with liberty to each man to shape his own life as he chooses. Comment: This very important clause of democracy should be called as its “Freedom and Equality Clause”. But it also includes a crucially important characteristic because of which I have also called it as the “Collapse Clause of Democracy”. Apart from ensuring liberty and bringing in political equality, this clause allows the majority to demand everything from the state, and the rest of the erosion to collapse proceeds from there. Statement: …. even horses, asses and dogs go free about, so that they run against you in the road, if you do not make way for them. …… Comment: Today’s US may be different from this in terms of material wealth, but small-town rural India is similar! Statements: The subversion of such a democracy arises from men who rise to be popular leaders in it: violent, ambitious, extravagant men who gain the favor of the people by distributing amongst them confiscations from the property of the rich. He begins his rule by some “acceptable measures”, such as abolition of debts, and assignment of lands to the poorer citizens, until he has expelled or destroyed the parties opposed to him. Comment: (Plato should have used the words “populist measures” instead of “acceptable measures” in the above sentence.) This role has today been taken up in the US by the Democrats, in India by several parties etc. Direct confiscation is sometimes resorted to (known as nationalization), but the major means today is ‘printing excess notes’. Granting debts and then waiving them off and expanding reservation of government jobs (as affirmative action) prior to important elections, are common tricks in India. As per reports, the communists have an appreciable clout in the White-House – nothing is blasphemous any more! (India and USA may be far apart on certain parameters – point is about the similarity of how democracy functions.) Statement: He seeks pretences for foreign wars, in order that the people may stand in need of a leader, and may be kept poor by the contributions necessary to sustain war. Comment: This role is taken up in the US mainly by the GOP as an answer to Dems’ onslaught of ‘socialism’. In India, a large ‘conservative’ party is raring to take it up. It will be difficult for both these parties to give up this role – they will not have an election pitch. The conservatives may gloat that they have fooled the whole world and taken over all of Europeans’ colonies (the US has its military establishments in more than 125 countries), but this, along with its accompanying debt-mountain, is the historic cause of collapse of better empires like Rome and Britain! So they have only fooled America. (Detailed write-up on the doings of GOP regarding this, and its implications today, are available elsewhere. America is only retracing the foot-steps of Rome, and in fact, Britain has led them by the finger held by an admirer – Wilson – but intellectuals have never even mentioned this, let alone drawn any inferences.) Statements: The rich, resisting these injustices, become enemies to the constitution. The people, in order to put them down, range themselves under the banners of the most energetic popular leader, who takes advantage of such a position to render himself a despot. But presently he finds, or suspects, dissatisfaction among the more liberal spirits. He kills or banishes them as enemies. Comment: These divisions are in nascent stage in the US because division of society into warring groups has just begun, but the original US constitution is now rendered substantially useless to protect the individual. The massive “anti-capitalism” protests there are mark of ‘rich-poor’ division, but meaningless because capitalism does not even exist there. There are reports of socialists intending to distribute top 5% Americans’ wealth to remaining 95%. Talks of secession and states shifting to their own currencies have surfaced. In India the groups have taken a definite form in different regions, and are now set to coalesce into larger groups with more destructive powers. Unquote The US is on the brink, but the rulers are strongly continuing the same agenda. This is because neither of the 2EBBPs (two equally bad big parties) that rule the US can adopt better policies – it is not in their hands for reasons given below. Bell Shaped or Pyramidal Structure of Human Societies and Groups G1 and G2: The reason why civilization fails on reaching upto democracy (which is a mandatory stop along the path of Liberty) is that it is taken over by the phenomenon of populism, after which moral degeneration starts. Populism’s destructive effect is aggravated by the typical structure of all human societies. This is a bell-shaped or a pyramidal structure whose “lower sections” form the “unthinking majority”, with whose help the evil intellectuals destroy civilization, the ones who do not accept that the state that promises everything actually intends to usurp everything. This group gains prominence during the decay of democracy. It is called group G1 here. (Starting from the lowest sections of society, G1 comprises of beggars, tramps, drunkards, addicts, hippies etc at the very bottom; laborers, peons, truck-drivers, lift-men, school and college drop-outs at the next level, and so on. Universally, group G1 forms about 80-85% of the populace of any society – in America it could be slightly less because of enlightenment. This group corresponds to Plato’s Men of Bronze – but the Brahmins had equated it with Shudras (untouchables) much prior to him; Christians and Muslims too had their names.) One person on a net forum criticized me for talking about “one piece solution” to democracy’s multitudinous, multifarious problems – but just above, another member said that most people do not think, but just vote. So it was possible to show them there itself, that this was the source of democracy’s multitudinous, multifarious problems – that most people do not think, and yet they over-whelmingly determine the government -- and the “one-piece solution” lay in handling this group G1 correctly! Because of the numerical strength of this group, the 2EBBPs pander to its demands at the threat of extinction – if they take any steps not to the liking of these masses, they will be swept out of politics. Competition for populism keeps eroding moral values leading the democracy to the abyss. The 2EBBPs have got channelized within a groove and are forced to so compete that they keep taking small, imperceptible steps, one at a time, towards collapse – and the key to stemming today’s slide lies in pulling them out of this channel of populism. Because of the above reasons the intellectuals should not expect so easily a change in the policies of the 2EBBPs and should also realize that ‘reforming’ G1 is not a simple matter – rather, if they are trying traditional methods, then they are wrong somewhere, or missing something. There is another large group of voters, G2, located above Group G1 in the social pyramid, which has thinking capacity (professionals, educated middle-classes, businessmen etc), does not want populism, and is tired of the 2EBBPs. (These are Plato’s Men of Silver, Brahmins’ Kshatriyas-Vaishyas, European nobility etc). Universally, this group is about 15% of the entire society; in America it could be larger because of enlightenment.) But this group needs intellectual leadership and in its absence helplessly divides itself between the two parties for lack of an alternative. Capturing this group is important because it can be the catalyst for political change. G2 is the best tool of education of the masses (intellectuals please note) – good ideas percolate from it to them, and when these stop, the bad ones take over by default. Moral Degeneration and Collapse due to democracy: Populism and doles lead to citizens losing respect for productive work, and government getting mired in debt-mountains. Example, the deterioration in US labor productivity since 1960s due to government support to unions. But that does not matter to the populace and their “popular leaders” – they continue with the same policies. The populace will not elect better politicians who do not distribute doles. That’s why this century’s politicians are midgets as compared to the FFs – but then the FFs would not get elected in this century! Even if rarely elected, these upright men become ineffective because of ganging up by populist politicians. The populists are also tempted to use power for gains by forcing businessmen into alliances with them. In general, honest men are put to disadvantage in all fields -- professions, science, business, bureaucracy – even an upright worker against the union. This is the root of today’s wide-spread plutocracy, hijacking of bail-out money, communists in the White-House, evoking wars to satisfy MNC interests, lethargic, malingering workers etc – and all-round demand of doles from all quarters, accompanied by wide-spread corruption. (As pointed out by some, the 2EBBPs may even be winking at the success of their partnership!) Slowly, pressure-group games will change into corporate wars – i.e. internal division of society, wherein honesty will be the casualty! Finally, the casualty will be America as predicted by many from Plato to Madison and Adams. The Small Groups (LT0.5%G) – the Intellectuals -- And Their Problems: Apart from the large groups G1 and G2, there are several smaller groups of intellectuals like the Humanists, Objectivists, Libertarians, Constitution Party etc, of better political thought – yet the ones who need lessons rather than the masses. Amongst these groups, a caution about the Objectivists: they are far less in number than the sale of Ayn Rand’s books (and sufficiently divided internally). The conservatives are using her for mass-deception – they remember her when out of power, and forget her on regaining it. (They have already taken over the tea-parties and even declared their future agenda – enough cause for anxiety rather than euphoria! These are 2 more examples of non-operation of intelligence – nobody pointing out that GOP has fooled America about the scare of Communism and Islam for their empire building and debt-mountain; and that they very opportunistically use Ayn Rand’s name and forget her later. (Once GOP assumes power and brings out its “controversial issues”, the euphoria is likely to fade away, and the other side will “resurge” – that is the pattern so far. But – the US being an unprecedented phenomenon, a very small margin, say 1% or less, is granted as a benefit of doubt for possible turnaround.)) Some of these, particularly the libertarians, are trying to establish an FF-Govt. But their strong inter and intra divisions make them almost the strongest enemies of each other. Politically, these groups would get only a fractional percentage of votes – so I have called them as LT0.5%G (less than 0.5% groups). If they joined hands for the sole purpose of influencing the government towards an FF-Govt (appropriately declaring their differences), they would have a better impact, first because of their joint numbers, but more importantly, by becoming the point of attraction for the second large group G2, to spread better ideas in society. Their strong inter and intra divisions reveal that these groups have absolutely not understood the meaning of Difference of Opinion and Freedom of Mind. A big-government will create many objectionable / debatable issues by encroaching upon the domain of citizens’ rights. Analyzing these myriad issues is useless; one will never have uniformity of thought over them because that is the implication of “freedom of the mind”. But fighting over these issues itself is a mark of foolishness – it diverts from the most fundamental issue that the size of the government needs to be reduced, and once that is achieved, most other issues will automatically vanish. Their intra and inter divisions over trivia reveal their striving for perfection, which is generally correct except in the political arena. Further, they also expect to some day convert the world to their “perfect philosophy”, which is impossible for the same reason why all men cannot be Galileo, Pasteur, Newton -- most men are incapable, which is why great men have special place in man-kind’s history. Their perfection is besides the point in democracy (and democracy cannot be given up if freedom of mind is to be preserved). The ‘unthinking masses’ who determine the outcome of elections, do not care for science or perfection, all they care for is doles, populism, slogans and war, which the 2EBBPs are forced to offer in every election. An FF-Govt forces all people to live according to their free-market-ability – protecting the “perfectionists” from tyranny of majority. This is what rational men should want – but with their conceit, the “perfectionists” give up the chance to limit the government. The ‘thinking group’ G2 is forced to vote for one of the 2EBBPs, other-wise it’s a wasted vote to a negligible even if better party. This forms a vicious circle strengthening the 2EBBPs and ensuring their rule till collapse. The small but “perfectionist” LT0.5%Gs also vote on the above lines of G2 – but only after a lot of arguments over which they may even further sub-divide their negligible numbers. Politically, their “perfection” is small-time ego. Freedom of mind and structure of society entails that, even if there be a perfect political theory, its application will be a close approximation only, like engineering where we keep striving to achieve the best approximation. A country consists of hundreds of millions, not a few LT0.5%Gs. Better accept an FF-govt -- else accept continuance of today’s slide by the 2EBBPs. (Especially for O’ists: There has never existed in history a society that they may be attaching their dreams to, Atlantis. But: 1. one has to keep striving to reach as near to it as possible; 2. The FFs had the best society in the history of mankind so far, only because of which today’s American extravaganza is going on. The next best, the Romans and the Greek were far inferior. So forming alliances to form an FF-govt is the necessity of the day.) Intellectuals have to learn Factors that lead to Collapse of Society: Along with mind its allied phenomenon also manifests -- Difference of opinion and freedom of mind! And whether in primitive societies or in today’s NY, this phenomenon is the same, except that it was not identified in primitive societies, while in modern times the FFs of US enshrined it in the constitution. The difference in perception of reality leads to differences (and fights) amongst individuals. This is aggravated by the fact that man is not infallible, makes mistakes. The dishonest and the evil take advantage of these fights. Inability to peacefully resolve differences amongst better men has historically acted as one of the biggest scourges of man-kind. The reason is that all the evil and dishonest ones join hands, in all fields of activity, to defeat the good, whereas good men who generally live a life of “implicit individualism” (being good, they automatically respect each others’ liberty) remain separated because of these differences. Evil keeps on winning and yet the good ones are unable to join hands to oppose it. It is easier for evil to join hands because their alliance is only to defeat the good and destroy knowledge – not for creative purposes. This was the reason for religion’s uniform victory and prolonged rule all over the earth, independent of each-other – because during those days, knowledge of “freedom of mind” not being available it made the task of evil men easier. The FFs were never uniform in thinking – they even lobbied against each other. (This is in line with any large group of men anywhere on earth). But they knew that “freedom of mind” is not merely the freedom to hold and express any thoughts, but intelligent people understood its implication correctly – that they had to join hands against greater evil – this was the secret of their having subdued religious evil, despite religion being much stronger then than now. Unfortunately, they did not weed it out completely, keeping open a chance for its resurgence. Today’s “intellectuals” more need to note this point than anybody else. In their conceit about “perfection” they have lost the ability to differentiate between bigger and lesser evil – instead of joining hands to reduce the government, they spend their strength against each-other. They are in a far better position than the FF-farmers – but that is because of the sweat, blood and courage of those farmers. LT0.5%Gs are unable to understand because their “great philosophy” has blinkered them. (Like the 2EBBPs, these too are caught in a channel of self-conceit – whose philosophy is superior, ours or theirs?) They don’t have any reason to blame “commies in the White House” or lower sections of society or anybody else. If anything, they are the ones to blame for the slide that is going on and on, particularly the influential ones amongst them. It raises the question whether they really are true to the ideas they proclaim to profess – the answer is known to their minds alone. Let me reiterate to emphasize that even today, majority of Americans are likely to be good (far better than the impossible situation I struggle against in India), and recovery could be easily achieved – and only that intellectuals not leading them properly, could become the major problem. My Quest: Remaining 1 page is continued in the link below: http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/7a3c68c3c3_0.04MB
  13. On several of the web-forums that I visit, I have seen people abusing politicians in manner befitting only primitive societies. ‘Grave’ would be a very mild word to describe the divisive emotional atmosphere in US (e.g. resorting to racist abuses / charges etc). With the proclaimed communists having entered the White House, I believe it is well past the time that people with similar political goals, viz. a small, restrained government and maximum freedom to the individual, came to an understanding for the purpose of reducing this government, while maintaining and declaring differences amongst themselves. Those interested may find following write-up to be contributing towards this: http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/8a55c6df0a_0.08MB The link to download the file is at the bottom of the page that appears.
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