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Okay folks, it seems like this keeps coming up in other threads, so I thought the subject might be worthy of its own thread. The title of my post, using formatting available to me in the post body is, "What exactly is wrong with Obamacare". I don't want answers like, "it's socialized medicine!" since we had that already long before the new law was passed. I don't even want answers like, "it's even more socialized socialized medicine" unless you can tell me exactly what you mean. I'm looking for facts here, and I'm looking for the "big difference" between what we have now and what we had before. From the high-level standpoint, Obamacare seems to me an "optimization" of the former system. If you start with the premise that all US residents will be taken care of no matter what--a premise solidified in the 1960s in the USA--then Obamacare is simply a more efficient way to execute on that premise. Or so goes my theory. Prove me wrong. My assumptions thus far are as follows: 1. Since the 1960s we've had "socialized medicine" in the sense that we've guaranteed the medical help to anybody who needed it. 2. The above allowed lots of people to freeload off the system. Many people didn't buy insurance because they didn't want to (or couldn't, but OC doesn't change anything for them since poor people get free OC). Many employers too essentially freeloaded off of taxpayers by not providing health insurance to their employees, knowing that the public system would take care of them. 3. The individual mandate is necessary to fix the problem above, and also fix a core problem of insurance, which is that you need healthy people to pay into it in order to make the system work. In a very direct way we've already had an individual mandate in that I am mandated to pay my income taxes which pay for other people's health care, and I have been for decades. 4. That operating under the premise in #1, there is generally no better way to solve the practical problem presented by this premise. Would love to hear what people have to say on this...