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The average Republican wouldn't be caught dead saying something like that, nor does the average Republican (office-holders, at any rate) believe anything that screwy.

The "average" Republican isn't a leading presidential candidate.

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As to GreedyCapitalist: I agree...that was my main point.
What do you agree with? In general, the average Republican is reflected in the person who ends up winning the Republican nomination (barring some odd circumstances). To the extent that people are averagely Republican and cannot manifest that in the shape of a candidate, their positions are of zero importance to the rest of us. Edited by softwareNerd

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I really don't want this to degenerate into another debate about Peikoff's statements, but since you asked:

I mean the typical Republican politician. I can't think of another Republican office-holder whose political views are that obviously in favor of theocracy. Very few office-holding Republicans would believe, let alone publicly say, something like that. And, yeah, he's a front-runner...in a primary where less than a third of the vote can make you a front-runner. That means that two-thirds+ is not in favor of him being nominated.

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I can't think of another Republican office-holder whose political views are that obviously in favor of theocracy.

Senator Sam Brownback might want even more of a theocracy than Mike Huckabee. He is arguably the most religious in the Senate now that Rick Santorum has been voted out of office. Senators Tom Coburn, Jim DeMint and John Thune are of concern as well. I do not really know that much about the House but Tom Tancredo, Marylin Musgrave and Jean Schmidt are some of the religiously arch-conservatives who immediately come to mind. Mike Huckabee is probably more dangerous than most of these guys, largely because he is more charismatic and articulate. He makes religious fundamentalism sound warm and inviting.

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I still hold that Peikoff's pronouncements about the threat of religious conservatism are generally absurd, but Huckabee is a special case.

It doesn't look absurd to me now, I'm sad to say. Giuliani, our one real hope, doesn't look too strong right now.

The average Republican wouldn't be caught dead saying something like that, nor does the average Republican (office-holders, at any rate) believe anything that screwy.

I hope you're right, but I'm not so sure.

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I still hold that Peikoff's pronouncements about the threat of religious conservatism are generally absurd, but Huckabee is a special case. The average Republican wouldn't be caught dead saying something like that, nor does the average Republican (office-holders, at any rate) believe anything that screwy.

Yeah, and it doesn't matter what the other office holders believe. It's about the masses and what they vote for, and the mass of Republican voters would nod their heads in agreement with Huckabee on this. After all, how many media sources do we have telling them that evil liberal Democrats are trying to take God out of the country with things like the taking the Ten Commandments out of that courthouse?

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That story is too important not to be quoted here:

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There you have it, Peikoff's concern.

It will be interesting to see what, if anything, other Republican candidates, and prominent conservatives, have to say about Huckabee's desire to modify the constitution to make it compatible with Christianity. Will they criticize him, and speak out in favor of church-state separation? Or will these people just not say anything, perhaps out of fear of antagonizing potential voters? Also, how will these words affect Huckabee's popularity? Will he now gain, or lose supporters?

That such a statement would be made today by one of the leading contenders for the Republican nomination is a big indicator of how far that party has slid into the abyss of advocating Christianity in government. Forty years ago, a candidate could not have gotten away with such a statement and remained a viable contender for president.

Peikoff was right a few years ago to identify the threat of theocracy posed by the Republican Party.

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I completely agree. Huckabee is the most dangerous candidate (on either side) for two reasons. First, there is a chance he will actually get the nomination. Second, for all those reasons above.
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I agree. From Huckabee's website:

My faith is my life - it defines me. My faith doesn't influence my decisions, it drives them. For example, when it comes to the environment, I believe in being a good steward of the earth. I don't separate my faith from my personal and professional lives.

I believe that Roe v. Wade should be over-turned.

Then there is his statment on the video linked to here on NoodleFood.

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I have never quite understood all of the focus on Huckabee when there is another candidate out there who is truly frightening--John Edwards. Neither, in my mind, has a chance of winning their respective parties nomination, but in a comparison between the two, the divisive Edwards is by far the worst. His entire campaign is built around the idea of two Americas--those who have and those who have not. He plans to close this wealth gap the old fashioned liberal way--by stealing from those who produce and distributing it to those who do not. Along the way he will demonize every American corporation, blame them for all of Americas ills, then send teams of lawyers, regulators and tax collectors to cripple American industry.

Not that his opponents, Clinton and Obama, are all that friendly to the free market, but Edwards strikes me as anti-capitalist to the core. It is certainly the core of his message and accounts for the core of his support. He has made it his vow to end poverty within a generation. Sound familiar? Apparently, Lyndon Baines Edwards plans to end the war in Iraq to launch WW(on poverty)II in America. We will immediately flee from the "immoral" war for oil in Iraq to embroil ourselves in the "moral" civil wars raging in Sudan and Uganda. The 15% support that this guy continues to draw is far more worrisome to me than the 20% support that Huckabee gets. Huckabee, for what it is worth, is a likable guy. And that likability accounts for much of his appeal. Edwards is strident, angry and divisive--that appears to be much of his appeal as well. The trouble is, what angers Edwards the most--human liberty, property rights, and free markets--is what makes America the best. His campaign is a overt campaign against Americas principles. That makes him the worst of all cndidates in my mind.

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You know, I consider this to be a test for the American people. If they elect Huckabee, I think our nation is screwed and virtually done with. Not that Huckabee will actually turn the nation into a theocracy, but it will show that the majority of Americans place for emphasis on Christianity then there own freedom. So much so that they even try to rewrite history saying this is a Christian nation, founded on Christianity. The irrationality would spread too far.

I'm not worried about the Democrats because, even considering there socialist tendencies, they dont care a copy of The Communist Manifesto around with them like Huckabee carries a Bible.

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Hickabee (heh) lost the SC primary, which is a pretty bad sign for him. South Carolina is one of the more conservative states in the US, and if he doesn't have enough support there from evangelical republicans, then I do not think he'll be able to get the nomination. Most states are much less likely to vote for this guy, after all. As bad as McCain is, I'd much, much rather have him as a president than Mike Huckabee.

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Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards' David Edwards and Muriel Kane

Published: Tuesday January 15, 2008

The United States Constitution never uses the word "God" or makes mention of any religion, drawing its sole authority from "We the People." However, Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee thinks it's time to put an end to that.

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution," Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

When Willie Geist reported Huckabee's opinion on MSNBC's Morning Joe, co-host Mika Brzezinski was almost speechless, and even Joe Scarborough couldn't immediately find much to say beyond calling it "interesting,"

Scarborough finally suggested that while he believes "evangelicals should be able to talk politics ... some might find that statement very troubling, that we're going to change the Constitution to be in line with the Bible. And that's all I'm going to say."

Geist further noted of Huckabee that if "someone without his charm," said that, "he'd be dismissed as a crackpot, but he's Mike Huckabee and he's bascially the front-runner."

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