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Is the Electric Universe theory a better integrated cosmological view?

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I saw an interesting show about capturing photo evidence of a phenomenon called sprite lightning, it seemed scientists were interested to know why it reached so high "up" or I suppose why it seemed to interact with regions so high in the troposphere.

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I've not run across a Science Daily article on the sprite lightning to excerpt against the Thunderbolt projects considerations on the matter, such as Bolts Out of Thin Air.

 

Then again, Science Daily posts Magnetic fingerprint of our galaxy revealed that amounted to little more than "Hey look. A magnetic field. Isn't that interesting."

 

Edited to add: I found it interesting to note the "straight line" running through the middle of the illustration (needed to click on 'enlarge picture' to see on my browser) and the "All about Evidence" presentation by Donald Scott on his discoveries about Birkeland currents in the 35 minute presentation A New Model of Magnetic Structure in Space.

 

The explanation given jives with my understanding of modeling curvatures on a cylindrical surface. It amounts to a pitch not deviating from a straight line along its axis, to one with a varying pitch that depends on the magnitude of the radius. An example of a constant pitch can be experienced by examining the threading on any common screw, nut or bolt.

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From the Thunderbolts:  A New Look at Near Neighbors Part One

The Electric Universe model takes a very different approach. There was no Big Bang, no distinct creation event, and the Universe is as it always was: 99.999% plasma. Over time, the cosmic plasma organized into cells, as plasma will do, separated by differences in matter and charge densities, bounded by double layers. Along the boundaries between these cells, filaments and sheets organized into Birkeland currents. The Universe self-organized due to the electromagnetic properties of plasma.

 

On Wikipedia is found:

The presence of a non-negligible number of charge carriers makes the plasma electrically conductive so that it responds strongly to electromagnetic fields. Plasma, therefore, has properties quite unlike those of solids, liquids, or gases and is considered a distinct state of matter. Like gas, plasma does not have a definite shape or a definite volume unless enclosed in a container; unlike gas, under the influence of a magnetic field, it may form structures such as filaments, beams and double layers. Some common plasmas are found in stars and neon signs. In the universe, plasma is the most common state of matter for ordinary matter, most of which is in the rarefied intergalactic plasma (particularly intracluster medium) and in stars. Much of the understanding of plasmas has come from the pursuit of controlled nuclear fusion and fusion power, for which plasma physics provides the scientific basis.

 

How applicable is plasma physics to existence as a whole?
 

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Excerpts from Science Daily

High-speed solar winds increase lightning strikes on Earth

Scientists have discovered new evidence to suggest that lightning on Earth is triggered not only by cosmic rays from space, but also by energetic particles from the sun. Researchers found a link between increased thunderstorm activity on Earth and streams of high-energy particles accelerated by the solar wind, offering compelling evidence that particles from space help trigger lightning bolts.

 

Meteorology found a substantial and significant increase in lightning rates across Europe for up to 40 days after the arrival of high-speed solar winds, which can travel at more than a million miles per hour, into Earth's atmosphere.

 

Lead author of the study, Dr Chris Scott, said: "Our main result is that we have found evidence that high-speed solar wind streams can increase lightning rates. This may be an actual increase in lightning or an increase in the magnitude of lightning, lifting it above the detection threshold of measurement instruments.

 

The solar wind consists of a constant stream of energetic particles -- mainly electrons and protons -- that are propelled from the Sun's atmosphere at around a million miles per hour. The streams of particles can vary in density, temperature and speed and sweep past Earth every 27 days or so, in line with the time it takes the Sun to make one complete rotation relative to Earth.

 

Excerpt from Thunderbolts

Solar Electricity

The discovery that a "solar wind" escapes the Sun at between 400 and 700 kilometers per second was a surprise for the nuclear theory. In a gravity-driven Universe, the Sun's heat and radiation pressure are insufficient to explain how the particles of the solar wind accelerate past Venus, Earth and the rest of the planets. Since they are not rocket powered particles, no one expected such acceleration.

 

According to the electric Sun theory, an electric field focused on the Sun accelerates charged particles: the faster they accelerate, the stronger the field. But as noted, the interplanetary electric field is extremely weak. No instrument would be able to measure the voltage differential across 100 meters, but the solar wind acceleration over tens of millions of kilometers does confirm the Sun's e-field, enough to sustain a drift current across the Solar System. Within the spatial volume, the implied current is sufficient to power the Sun.

 

 

The solar wind consists of a constant stream of energetic particles -- mainly electrons and protons...

 

Aren't electrons and protons what essentially comprise an electric field?

A Shocker: Solar Wind Provokes Lightning on Earth | Space News

An 8 minute 33 second clip elucidating on the Science Daily article linked to above.

 

Also, a direct link, if it works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67wOTlKmeoA

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This was posted recently on Science Daily.

 

How solar wind can break through Earth's magnetic field

 

From the summary posted there:

Space is not empty. A wind of charged particles blows outwards from the Sun, carrying a magnetic field with it. Sometimes this solar wind can break through the Earth’s magnetic field. Researchers now have an answer to one of the questions about how this actually occurs. When two areas with plasma (electrically charged gas) and magnetic fields with different orientations collide, the magnetic fields can be “clipped off” and “reconnected” so that the topology of the magnetic field is changed, they explain.

While electricity and magnetism share a relationship, the article deals more with the magnetic reconnection. The electrically charged gas is a description of the plasma without really going into the electrical side of the story.

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This was posted recently on Science Daily

 

Glimpse into the invisible world of electric asteroids

 

Source:

NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

Summary:

Space may appear empty -- a soundless vacuum, but it's not an absolute void. It flows with electric activity that is not visible to our eyes. NASA is developing plans to send humans to an asteroid, and wants to know more about the electrical environment explorers will encounter there.

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This was posted recently on Science Daily

 

Glimpse into the invisible world of electric asteroids

 

Source:

NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

Summary:

Space may appear empty -- a soundless vacuum, but it's not an absolute void. It flows with electric activity that is not visible to our eyes. NASA is developing plans to send humans to an asteroid, and wants to know more about the electrical environment explorers will encounter there.

Thunderbolts project responds to NASA article:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NrYaM9Q-mCM

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The "electric universe" theory is unscientific nonsense.  I'm closing this topic to discourage real science from being posted here to give it an air of legitimacy.

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