Myself Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 You are suggesting that Spielberg has more of a right to his movies than a child has to pornographic materials that were created with him as the main attraction. Spielberg has a right to his movies because he has a copyright. It's Intellectual Property. It has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Stop trying to squirm your way out of not justifying your position. Make your case or not. Step by step, logically connect your argument starting from the right to life right and ending with your case against CP. I will only waste so much of my time on obfuscations and trivialities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Piracy is a completely separate issue and has nothing to do with the topic we're discussing. Wrong we are speaking of law. Piracy is illegal because it violates rights, the right of property. It violates that right regardless of if you are the person burning the video or music for the first, the hundredth or the millionth time. A child that has been forced to perform sexual acts which are then photographed or videoed is having his/her right to life violated. And regardless of whether you are downloading the image for the first or the thousandth time that image still robs the child of his/her right to life. I find it amazing that you recognize that a musician or artist who's work is stolen from him is having his rights violated each and every time the proceeds of his effort (music or movie) is downloaded but you can not recognize that a victim of a physical crime is having his/her right to life violated by the existence of the proceeds of their rape. If a person who is being forced has no right to stop the product of that abuse, how can you morally claim a person has any right to anything that is taken from them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 [R]egardless of whether you are downloading the image for the first or the thousandth time that image still robs the child of his/her right to life. How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Ellison Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Spielberg has a right to his movies because he has a copyright. It's Intellectual Property. It has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Stop trying to squirm your way out of not justifying your position. Make your case or not. Step by step, logically connect your argument starting from the right to life right and ending with your case against CP. I will only waste so much of my time on obfuscations and trivialities. End of conversation. You either lack the ability to understand complex abstractions, or you haven't read my last two posts at all. Either way, it would be pointless to try and explain any further. Read Rand and Peikoff's work on Epistemology and get back to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 How? Because the child has been robbed of his free will, his life, his ability to control the way he has been forced to act. The video and pictures of are a continuation of that theft regardless of if they have been pirated once or a thousand times, and everyone who downloads that violation for the purpose of sexual perversion, satisfaction or enjoyment is continuing to pirate that child's right to life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 How? Suppose somebody was passing a sexual photograph of you around. It would violate your rights, you haven't consented to people viewing it. Each and every time somebody photocopied it or whatever. If you did consent, it would not be a rights violation. It would just be you making pornography. Children cannot consent to this, and such material can automatically be assumed to be a rights violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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