Ominous Paralells: Stage I

[Space Patroller]

As Obama does his thing. All the pundits scream "Socialism!". What we are seeing is not socialism. It is something else.

What we are treated to is government control over nominally private propery.

Where have we heard of that and in what context?

Meanwhile we have Leonard Peikoff making a dichotomy between religion and socialism that does not exist: To say that x is better or worse then y means they are antagonistic to each other. This non-existent dichotomy would be readily understood by a simple survey of the history of religious utopias and utopianism and the increasing portward list of the mainline religions. These are readibly observable facts. Also a fact is that the "conservative" churches are supporting the characteristics that are more in line with what we support: Productivity, achievement and some primitive capitalism even with a nod in the direction of self-interest (all of which can only be temporary as the waw of Identity slowly does its work) whilst the mainline denominations have jointed the Nihilists as promotors of socialism. In reality, if you choose against socialism, you ally with one religious faction by default (since, at present, they produce better outcomes and do you really think we have the clout to take on both sides or the luxury of sitting this out?). If you choose for socialism, you ally with the Nihilists and the majority of religions. Do I have to tell you what they produce? Given the present state of things, this is of necessity. I have told you of what happened in the middle 1970's. Had we not done so. Reagan probably would not have won the election. What do you think the outcome of 4 more years of Jimmy Carter. who was an Elder in his church, would have been? And what would that have done for Objectivism? If you are under 35, this would be of special significance to you.

In fact, socialism and religion are complementary to each other. It's just that things have not evolved to the point where that has kicked in entirely. Now in the sense that socialism is the economic system of what religion is the irreducible primary of, religion is "worse" but only in the reinforcive sense, not the antagonistic one but at this time that is not relevent. Rand said in CUI that in the nineteenth century, fledgeling capitlalism was said to promote atheism, which to me explains why clergy joined with the intellectuals and polititcians to create "Progressivism"/modern liberalism. I'd like to find that thread, we could probably use it.

I love Peikoff dearly but to quote Carla from CHEERS "sometimes the hamster falls asleep in the wheel"

Edited June 19, 2009 by Space Patroller

[Grames]

It is not possible to vote against religion in America. All the candidates at every level reflect the American attitudes because that is the only way to get elected.

As distasteful as the task may be, no political action is possible without discriminating between the different types of popular religious beliefs.