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Stalin and Hitler – like day and night?

From the Preface of Viktor Suvorov's The Chief Culprit, Naval Institute Press, 2008.

-Hitler’s flag was red.

-And Stalin’s flag was red.

-Hitler ruled in the name of the work­ers' class, his party was called the workers' party.

-Stalin also ruled in the name of the workers' class; his power system officially bore the title of "dictatorship of the proletariat."

-Hitler hated democracy and struggled against it.

-Stalin hated democracy and struggled against it.

-Hitler was building socialism.

-And Stalin was building socialism.

-Under the title of socialism Hitler saw a classless society.

-And Stalin, under the title of socialism, saw a classless society. In the midst of the classless society built by Hitler, and in that built by Stalin, flourished slavery in the truest sense of the word.

-Hitler held his road to socialism as the only correct one, and viewed all other paths as distortions.

-Stalin also held his road to socialism uniquely correct, and saw all other paths as deviations from the principal line.

-Hitler mercilessly destroyed all his party comrades, such as Roehm and his followers, when they strayed from the correct path.

-Stalin also mercilessly destroyed all who strayed from the correct path.

-Hitler had a Four Year Plan.

-Stalin had Five Year Plans.

-In Hitler’s Germany, one party was in power, the others in jail.

-And in Stalin's Soviet Union, one party was in power, the others in jail.

-Hitler’s party stood above the nation, and its leaders ruled the country.

-Stalin's party also stood above the nation, and its leaders ruled the country.

The most important holidays in Stalin's empire were May 1 and November 7-8. In Hitler's empire, they were May 1 and November 8-9.

-Hitler had the Hitlerjugend, young Hitlerists.

-Stalin had the Comsomol, young Stalinists.

Stalin's official title was Fuehrer; Hitler's was leader. Pardon, Stalin's was leader and Hitler's Fuehrer. In translation, they are identical.

-Stalin declared that Russians were respon­sible for all outstanding scientific and technological advances: the hot-air balloon, locomo­tive, airplane, radio, etc.

-Hitler claimed the same for Germans.

-Hitler loved grandiose structures. He laid in Berlin the foundation to the largest building in the world — the People’s Hall. Its dome spanned 250 meters in diameter, by some counts. The main hall was to have the capacity to hold 150,000 people.

-Stalin also loved grandiose structures. He laid in Moscow the foundation for the largest building in the world — the Palace of Soviets, Stalin's main hall was smaller than Hitler's, but the entire edifice was much higher. The 400-meter-high building served as a pedestal for the 100-meter-tall statue of Lenin.

-Hitler planned to tear down Berlin, and in its place to raise a new city of cyclopean structures.

-Stalin planned to tear down Moscow, and in its place to raise a new city of cyclopean structures.

-In Germany, Hitler was an outsider. He was born in Austria, and did not have German citizenship almost until the moment he came into power.

-For Russia, Stalin was an outsider. He was neither Russian, nor even a Slav. He was born in Georgia.

-Sometimes, on rare occasions, Stalin invited foreign visitors to his Kremlin apartment. They were shocked by the modesty of the interiors: a plain table, a closet, an iron-post bed, a gray soldier's bed cover.

-Hitler ordered the press to run a photograph of his living quarters. The world was shocked by his modesty: a plain table, a closet, an iron-post bed, a gray soldier's bed­cover. Only Stalin’s gray bed­ cover had black stripes, while Hitler’s – white stripes.

-Nevertheless, in secluded areas in the midst of magical natural surroundings, Stalin created quite cozy and well-protected residential fortresses, which did not at all resemble an ascetic's cell.

-Hitler also built impenetrable residence-fortresses in secluded areas in the midst of natural wonders, without frugality in his use of granite and marble.

-Hitler's mother dreamed that her son would become a priest.

-Stalin's mother had the same dream for her son.

-Hitler's beloved, Geli Raubal, was more than twenty years his junior.

-Stalin's beloved, Nadezhda Alliluieva, was more than twenty years his junior.

Geli Raubal committed suicide, as did Nadezhda Alliluieva.

-The circumstances of Raubal's death remain unclear. A theory proposes that Hitler murdered her.

-The circumstances of Alliluieva’s death are mysterious. A theory proposes that Stalin murdered her.

-The means of suicide (murder) for Geli Raubal was a handgun. It was Hitler's personal handgun.

-The means of suicide (murder) for Nadezhda Alliluieva was a handgun. It was Stalin's personal handgun.

-Hitler said one thing, and did another.

-So did Stalin.

-Hitler began his rule under the slogan "Germany Wants Peace." He proceeded to occupy half of Europe.

-Stalin fought for the "collective security of Europe," without holding back any strength or means. Afterwards, he proceeded to occupy half of Europe.

-Hitler had the Gestapo.

-Stalin had the Narodnyi Kommissariat Vnutrennikh Del (NKVD)—the People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs.

Hitler had Auschwitz, Buchenwald, and Dachau. Stalin had the Glavnoe Upravlenie Lagerei (GULAG) - the Main Prison Camp Directorate.

-Hitler had Babyi Yar.

-Stalin had Katyn.

-Hitler massacred people by the millions.

-Stalin also killed people by the millions.

Hitler did not decorate himself with medals of honor, and neither did Stalin.

Hitler wore a semi-military uniform without any signs of distinction, and Stalin wore a semi-military uniform without signs of distinction. Some might argue that later on Stalin acquired a taste for military titles, marshal batons, and gilded epaulets. This is true, but Stalin only named himself Marshal in 1943 after the Stalingrad victory, when it finally became clear that Hitler would lose the war. At the time of receiving this title, Stalin was sixty-three years old. He wore the Marshal's uniform for the first time for the Tehran Conference, while meeting with Churchill and Roosevelt. We cannot in this respect compare Hitler and Stalin simply because Hitler did not live to a comparable age, to see comparable meetings, or compar­able victories. In all other respects, the comparison fits.

-Stalin did not wear a beard, but had a famous mustache.

-Hitler had no beard, but a famous mustache.

Where does the difference lie?

The difference lies in the shapes of the mustaches.

The difference also lies in the fact that Hitler's actions were seen by the world as the greatest of crimes, while Stalin's actions were considered by the world as a struggle for peace and progress.

The world hated Hitler, and sympathized with Stalin.

-Hitler conquered half of Europe, and the rest of the world declared war against him.

-Stalin conquered half of Europe, and the world sent him congratulations.

-To ensure that Hitler could not hold on to the conquered European countries, the West sank German ships, bombed German cities, and then landed a massive and powerful army on the European continent.

-To enable Stalin to conquer and hold on to the other half of Europe, the West gave Stalin hundreds of warships, thousands of war planes and tanks, hundreds of thousands of the world's best war vehicles, and millions of tons of its best fuel, ammunition, and supplies.

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Ive read most of this.

For anyone interested in the persecution of the Communist crimes against humanity, i would suggest reading "The Black Book of Communism" if you have not already. Its well written and shows quite clearly that communist governments are every bit as guilty as the Nazis in their criminal activities.

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I've read most of this.

Ayn Rand wasn't exactly silent ...

Yes, most of the facts are known; I posted that fragment here because it is so true and, in places, fun too.

To the difference in the shapes of the mustaches :-), I will add the following:

- Hitler had a strong predilection for killing Jews

- Stalin had no such predilection, he killed indiscriminately, at least until about a few months before his death, when he noticed that the Jewish problem still wasn't solved...

OTOH, the author, Victor Suvorov, presents in his book a very intriguing theory about why the Soviet Army was so badly beaten in the first months after June 22, 1941. But about this - maybe some other time.

Alex

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Fascists and communists are both brands of collectivism, and are essentially two sides of the same coin. The reason they hated each other so much is because they each fought for a different collective; the fascists fight for the collective of the nation (weather it be specified by culture - Mussolini - or race - Hitler), while the Communists fight for the collective of the class. The reason they are constantly at each other's throats is because they recognize that they are so close. They both appeal to the same group of people (poor to middle class workers and the unemployed), and a fascist makes an easy convert to communism, and visa versa. In order to make sure that they get everyone who might become a communist (or visa versa), they need to paint communism as the enemy of fascism (visa versa).

God help us when they realize they're more alike than different.

- Hitler had a strong predilection for killing Jews

"Doctor, Doctor, give me the news ... I've got a bad case of killing jews."

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