SapereAude Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100921/ts_nm/us_un_assembly_ahmadinejad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainscalia Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 When do we get to declare his death? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalistSwine Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) That is not Iran's leader but yes he is a populist and an eccentric nothing new. Good thing he has next to no real power. Edited September 21, 2010 by CapitalistSwine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapereAude Posted September 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 That is not Iran's leader but yes he is a populist and an eccentric nothing new. Good thing he has next to no real power. He's teh President which would commonly be considered "leader". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 He's teh President which would commonly be considered "leader".What CS is eluding to is that the real power in Iran is the "supreme leader" Khamenei and those who revolve around him, e.g. the security apparatus and so on. Still, their president has his own band of thugs, and that comes via gathering a certain degree of power, and brings a certain degree of power. Ahmadinejad probably has no say at all in the setting strategic direction around things like nukes and war. Rather than a CEO of Iran, he's like the senor manager of a big aspect of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapereAude Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 What CS is eluding to is that the real power in Iran is the "supreme leader" Khamenei and those who revolve around him, e.g. the security apparatus and so on. Still, their president has his own band of thugs, and that comes via gathering a certain degree of power, and brings a certain degree of power. Ahmadinejad probably has no say at all in the setting strategic direction around things like nukes and war. Rather than a CEO of Iran, he's like the senor manager of a big aspect of the country. I understand that, and a couple years or even one year ago I would have agreed. But what I've been reading from Iran's more internal news sources indicate that the Ahmadinejad Administration has been pulling off some successful power plays as late. It could be dangerous to consider him more irrelevent than he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestyle Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Is this the same leader who claimed that Iran has no homosexuals? I tend to doubt this man's declarations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalistSwine Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 What CS is eluding to is that the real power in Iran is the "supreme leader" Khamenei and those who revolve around him, e.g. the security apparatus and so on. Still, their president has his own band of thugs, and that comes via gathering a certain degree of power, and brings a certain degree of power. Ahmadinejad probably has no say at all in the setting strategic direction around things like nukes and war. Rather than a CEO of Iran, he's like the senor manager of a big aspect of the country. Bingo. I understand that, and a couple years or even one year ago I would have agreed. But what I've been reading from Iran's more internal news sources indicate that the Ahmadinejad Administration has been pulling off some successful power plays as late. It could be dangerous to consider him more irrelevent than he is. Nothing has changed. You know why? Because the people that actually do have the power in Iran do not like Ahmadenijad, and they are constantly at odds with each other with behind-the-curtains politics. I of course am not saying Khamenei and crew aren't crazy bastards, but they are certainly not as stupid as we act like they are when it comes to both political and military strategy. Also, Ahmadinejad's people control the media, so of course they are going to revolve things around him. He is a populist in the sense that he stirs up the feelings of an urge to return to former glory via empire, but many of his extreme views are not actionable militarily (because they are in control of the real people in power), or amongst the general populace, which actually has, more or less, a fairly pro-american attitude (the people, not the US government, and they have plenty of reason for not liking our government...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapereAude Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) A brief, by no means, complete but useful piece about the current power structure struggles in Iran for anyone unfamiliar with what CS and Nerd are discussing: http://bit.ly/bntLFu For those on twitter who are interested in following the political situation in Iran @SaloumehZ is a good follow for constantly updated information Edited to add link Edited September 22, 2010 by SapereAude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalistSwine Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 A brief, by no means, complete but useful piece about the current power structure struggles in Iran for anyone unfamiliar with what CS and Nerd are discussing: http://bit.ly/bntLFu For those on twitter who are interested in following the political situation in Iran @SaloumehZ is a good follow for constantly updated information Edited to add link Thanks, this explains things quite well as far as I can tell by my quick once-over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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