KristenNorway Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Hi. I was debating with a socialist some days ago and he challenged me about force/property. He said something like this: "I own a property and will do something with it. Unfortunatly, x will buy a part of the property." What would a good objectvist respons be? Kristen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleph_1 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Could you be a little more specific about the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristenNorway Posted June 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 I wrote it down in a hurry, sorry. I meant: "I own a property and will do something with it. Unfortunatly, x will buy a part of the property. If I not sell a part of the property to him, I will "force" his mind to consider another option". Why is this type of force acceptable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Why is this type of force acceptable? Well, if I jump on a chair I exert force. That is acceptable. I could do this on a human too: when you have sex you exert force on the other person. Why is this type of force acceptable? Indeed, this last brings up a question: am I exerting force by the the consent of the other person? Is force thus non-force? The point being: Objectivism is not against anything that is labelled "force". The starting point is in the other direction: bottom-up. Start by asking what should allowed and disallowed. Then, if you label the disallowed things "force", well and good, but you still cannot express it in Newtons. Therefore, drop the word "force" from your question and restate it thus: why is it okay to be free to sell or not sell your own stuff, but not okay to grab someone else's stuff against their will? Edited June 27, 2014 by softwareNerd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiral Architect Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 No more than he is "forcing" your mind to consider his proposal. It's called consenting adults for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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