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Soma Holiday

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Is it just me or is the whole Apple vs FBI encryption ordeal straight out of Atlas Shrugged? A judge ordered them to CREATE a new operating system that will basically destroy the public faith in their product. Is that even constitutional? If they were to say that they didn't know how to do it, would they be brought to court for their ability to create that operating system?

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6 minutes ago, Soma Holiday said:

Is it just me or is the whole Apple vs FBI encryption ordeal straight out of Atlas Shrugged? A judge ordered them to CREATE a new operating system that will basically destroy the public faith in their product. Is that even constitutional? If they were to say that they didn't know how to do it, would they be brought to court for their ability to create that operating system?

I don't know if it's just me. But hiding all my personal information from the government isn't such a big deal.

So they might know my credit card information, or what stores I shop at, what forums I frequent. More embarrassingly, my eclectic choices of porn.

But really, the constitutional right to privacy can only be as important as it was designed to seem. 

Without an original idea of privacy, we would unlikely ever have got the notion that it is a deserved luxury that is very important.

What have you got to hide? Am I the only person who can give a hoot?

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I've nothing to hide as well, the government can have fun scrolling through my also extensive porn history.

The problem is that a lot of Americans don't share our transparency. Forcing apple to make a new product that will completely enrage its customers. A: I didn't think the government could force a company into making anything. B: Should the government have the right to wreck apple's business like that?

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18 hours ago, Marzshox said:

I don't know if it's just me. But hiding all my personal information from the government isn't such a big deal.

So they might know my credit card information, or what stores I shop at, what forums I frequent. More embarrassingly, my eclectic choices of porn.

But really, the constitutional right to privacy can only be as important as it was designed to seem. 

Without an original idea of privacy, we would unlikely ever have got the notion that it is a deserved luxury that is very important.

What have you got to hide? Am I the only person who can give a hoot?

This isn't about privacy rights. The government isn't trying to violate Apple's privacy rights. They're trying to force Apple to work for the government, and against its own, and its customers', interests. That violates a lot more than just privacy.

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Apple and gov't pulling a fast one. 
 

It probably comes as no surprise that government will likely get into the backdoors on our iPhones. 

Meanwhile, Apple tells media they will not comply with obstructing privacy rights, making a big deal in the media which indicates we are all still secure. 

Meanwhile, people preoccupied with Apples claims to protect rights, in the media... 

Apple secretly complies with backdoor agreement, while false headlines are devised to trick public, in hopes they won't dig deep into what is actually happening with their digital devices. 

We are all being watched by big brother on all devices, and this has always been the case IMO. News is to just divert us from the possibility that we are in fact, not secure.

I'm full of crazy theories!

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Being "full of theories" could be good or bad, depending on whether the theories are true or false. To deal effectively with reality, the primary intellectual requirement is to have theories that reflect reality. Part of this is to understand when certain things are possibly not true, others are probably not true, still others are wildly speculative,etc.

The typical conspiracy theorist gets this classification wrong. I believe this comes from not just misunderstanding one particular, but from a broader worldview. The person does not quite understand that people in the establishment are more similar to him than at first glance. This psychological alienation results in a worldview where the "other" is seen as more evil, and more powerful than they truly are.

 

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Actually I'm not full of theories. Just a storm in my mind that sometimes comes up with unlikely ideas.

Even if I don't find truth in them or consider them good ideas, I will occasionally share them anyway just as food for thought.

For example. A television from Japan that has a finger sensor button, could actually be a webcam that the Japanese use to have access to every Americans living room.

Though unlikely, if you think of what technology exists and realize that such a scenario is possible... It's not so far fetched.

However, because such possibilities are unlikely occurences, doesn't mean they're not possible: 

The government usually reverse engineers such technology, before it is carelessly put on the market.

I don't believe such unlikely scenarios actually happen, but they are none the less interesting ideas.

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On 2/21/2016 at 10:37 PM, Marzshox said:
Apple and gov't pulling a fast one. 
 

It probably comes as no surprise that government will likely get into the backdoors on our iPhones. 

Meanwhile, Apple tells media they will not comply with obstructing privacy rights, making a big deal in the media which indicates we are all still secure. 

Meanwhile, people preoccupied with Apples claims to protect rights, in the media... 

Apple secretly complies with backdoor agreement, while false headlines are devised to trick public, in hopes they won't dig deep into what is actually happening with their digital devices. 

We are all being watched by big brother on all devices, and this has always been the case IMO. News is to just divert us from the possibility that we are in fact, not secure.

I'm full of crazy theories!

I wouldn't call talking about things you don't know about crazy. Just uninformed.

Even just a brief foray into the subject of cryptography would've revealed to you the FACT that there is no backdoor (that IS an actual technical term, the meaning of which you probably don't understand well enough to use it) into the encryption Apple and Google use.

Take a half hour, read up on what you're talking about. Then post about this supposed backdoor.

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On 2/22/2016 at 11:43 PM, Marzshox said:

For example. A television from Japan that has a finger sensor button, could actually be a webcam that the Japanese use to have access to every Americans living room.

Though unlikely.

It's not unlikely, it's impossible.

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if you think of what technology exists and realize that such a scenario is possible

If you think, you will realize the exact opposite.

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At university, we were taught to question everything, and produce opposing points of views in places were there were none.

In other words, to stretch ourselves to imagine multiple possibile causes and solutions to any problem we investigate.

I was simply exercising my ability to come up with a possible scenario. Just as my instructor had me do in class.

Are you saying my professor was stupid?

I might be a little naive about tech devices and uses of how the word backdoor fits in context to such devices. That doesn't give you the right to suggest I'm some pulmonate in your after school remedial classroom. 

Especially  when I have aknowleded the aforementioned concepts you say are impossible, I have already dispose of.

Read everything before you jump on something with ADD like awesomeness.

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