mweiss Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 I've been away from here for about 2-3 weeks and since my return, I've noticed that there appear to be some updates to the forum software. However, I also started to experience something that had not been happening before: my browser stops responding when making a new message or when responding to a message in a forum. It basically freezes for about 20 seconds, and then finally returns control to me. I think it may have something to do with the Attachment system, because I see a message to the effect that it is "initializing" during that 20 seconds. This is on a very fast PC running Internet Explorer 6. This slows things down tremendously and I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing the delay and whether there is a way to turn this feature off so it doesn't present the delay all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidV Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 You should install Firefox: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/ or Internet Explorer 7: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/default.mspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mweiss Posted December 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 You should install Firefox: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/ or Internet Explorer 7: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/default.mspx What specific feature of either of these browsers addresses the delay problem? It was only last summer that I finally upgraded from IE 5.5 to IE 6. I wasn't planning to upgrade again until the majority of the web uses new features that IE 6 doesn't support. I it were up to me, I would disable Active-X and Java entirely, as these are the major security holes exploited by sites you get to by accident from a mistyped URL, but alas, most sites stop working completely without these enabled. Is there no workaround short of making major changes to my operating system and software? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Sophia~ Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 It was only last summer that I finally upgraded from IE 5.5 to IE 6. I wasn't planning to upgrade again until the majority of the web uses new features that IE 6 doesn't support. Mozilla’s software is open source and works very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidV Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 What specific feature of either of these browsers addresses the delay problem? They don't suck, for one. It was only last summer that I finally upgraded from IE 5.5 to IE 6.IE 6 was released on August 27, 2001. I'm sorry that you waited four years to upgrade, but IE7 has been out for a few months now. Is there no workaround short of making major changes to my operating system and software? Well, installing a third-party browser is not a "major change." Given that you seem to be having more issues than any other Windows user here, I think your computer is probably screwed up. That might be because you are using a old browser that is full of security holes and that's been infected by god-knows-what. I'm really not motivated enough to figure out what those issues might be, so your best best would be to upgrade to one of the aforementioned browsers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidOdden Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Well, I installed Firefox years ago and haven't glanced at that other browser since. Since the meltdown, I have had a similar problem, though it's a minor annoyance rather than the massively horrid problem of not getting access at all or having to hardwire the IP address in while waiting for my DNS server to get repaired. It happened at least once today. Like, right now. In the grand scheme of things, since it's a 1 second delay, it's not a big deal, but just so you know, it's not totally browser-dependent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidV Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 (edited) Are you saying that your Firefox browser is momentarily freezing when you try to add a reply? Which skin are you using. (All skins other than IPB 2.2 have known issues I haven't resolved yet.) Edited December 4, 2006 by GreedyCapitalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mweiss Posted December 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 They don't suck, for one. IE 6 was released on August 27, 2001. I'm sorry that you waited four years to upgrade, but IE7 has been out for a few months now. Well, installing a third-party browser is not a "major change." Given that you seem to be having more issues than any other Windows user here, I think your computer is probably screwed up. That might be because you are using a old browser that is full of security holes and that's been infected by god-knows-what. I'm really not motivated enough to figure out what those issues might be, so your best best would be to upgrade to one of the aforementioned browsers. I work this way: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. IE 6 works fine for just about everything I do. It was just this forum, with whatever change took place since my absense, that has picked up this delay. I did a complete virus scan on the system in question and it came up clean, a testimony to my tight security practices. I don't browse porn or warez sites, and unless a major news outlet, or OOL or BroadbandReports carries a virus, I don't visit any sites that do. You might consider me an idiot (most young folks think that us old codgers are technically ignorant and can't operate a computer to save our lives) but I am a builder of systems and networks and am quite familiar with all of the issues above. Installing a new version of IE also affects a number of other things, since IE is an integral part of the OS. That box is running Windows 2000, due to legacy hardware requirements. At my age, I don't like spending a lot of time chasing after problems that are created by making unnecessary changes, hence my resistance to changing browsers. OL uses the same software for their forum, albeit a slightly different version, and it responds just fine. It's only something that was changed here on OOL that produced the delay. I think it's the attachment manager, which wasn't here before, as I recall. Forty four years with Objectivism does not make me an idiot. (Yep, my first issue of The Objectivist newsletter dates back to issue 1, vol 1, in 1962. Wow, it's been a long time!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Mark and David O., Exactly at what point does it freeze? When you click in order to post/reply? Or, all of a sudden when one is editing? Or during preview? etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidOdden Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 (edited) Mark and David O., Exactly at what point does it freeze? When you click in order to post/reply? Or, all of a sudden when one is editing? Or during preview? etc."Freeze" is harsh. I wait for a second or two and then it procedes. It happens when (not sure if it's whenever but it looks like it) I click a button that displays the "replying" window, i.e. initially or previewing post. Using the default skin. Edited December 4, 2006 by GreedyCapitalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mweiss Posted December 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Mark and David O., Exactly at what point does it freeze? When you click in order to post/reply? Or, all of a sudden when one is editing? Or during preview? etc. When I click on reply, waiting for the edit window. Right now, it's not as bad, about 3-4 seconds or the time it took me to type this sentence up to the word "bad". Curiously, when I clicked on this thread, an "enter network password" dialog box popped up. It had the URL of this site in it, and it appears that the site thought I was logging into it's host machine's network. Lots of odd things happen here from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidV Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 (edited) Curiously, when I clicked on this thread, an "enter network password" dialog box popped up. This is a new bug. I'm working on it. Apparently uploaded images don't have the right permissions. Edit: This is weird. The smilyface was turned into an attached image, but it didn't generate the thumbnail, and hence generated the password prompt. Edited December 4, 2006 by GreedyCapitalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mweiss Posted December 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 This is a new bug. I'm working on it. Apparently uploaded images don't have the right permissions. Edit: This is weird. The smilyface was turned into an attached image, but it didn't generate the thumbnail, and hence generated the password prompt. Oi vey! It sounds like fun to admin a software forum. I want to note that I tried to post here from another computer this evening, as my main macine was busy recording audio as part of an archiving process. So I used a laptop with XP SP2, IE 6.0 2600, and when I hit the reply button, as the page starts to appear, I get the XP error message that gives me the option to forward the error to Microsoft. Thinking it was random, I loaded up the page again and it imploded again. So XP does not like this forum for some reason. My Windows 2000 machine just pauses, but it doesn't crash like that. BTW, I'm not encountering much of a delay most of the time when replying on that machine. It's gotten better for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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