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  1. -I was refering to my experience with libertarians in general. I have little knowledge on Libertarian Party, as im not an American citizent and couldnt care less. But the opposition in Scandinavia is massive, in Norway we have a league of libertarians under the name of "Fridemokratene", Free democrats roughly translated. On the day Arafat died they saluted him as a freedom fighter and a great individual. Let me take a quote; " Yassir Arafat døde fra drømmen om en palestinsk stat. Kan drømmen han delte med sitt folk likevel virkeliggjøres?" (Translation; Yassir Arafat died from his dream of a Palestinian State. Could the dream he shared with his people still become reality?" (www.liberaleren.no) Conclusion to the article; "Det er på tide palestinerne blir herrer i eget hus." (Translation; Its by time the Palestinians become masters of their own house". The libertarians of scandinavia fight for a "free" Palestinian state, and regar dthe revolt against the Israelis as legitimate. When it comes to denouncing Ayn Rand, i'll quote from the first comment on their article regarding her hundered birthday. "Man kan vel også legge til at det er de - inkludert meg - som i utgangspunktet har respekt for Rand's frihetsidealer, men som misliker henne fordi hun bygget opp en kult-bevegelse rundt en dogmatisk form for liberalisme." Translation; One could also add that there are those - myself included - whom from the beginning has had a deep respect for the freedomideals of Ayn Rand, but dislikes her because she bulidt up a cult-movement around som sort of dogmatic liberalism (Liberalism in the old sence, as an advocator of economic an personal freedom). Thats the Libertarians i know, id would suprise me if they were any different in the States, seeing there basing there statements on the same philosphical grounds.
  2. You're not missing something, but for some odd reason you dont recognise that the libertarians are mostly anarchists, in some form or matter. If you reject the gouvernments legitimate assignments, like making sure nobody kills you, or rob you're appartment or invade you're country - you are so far from objectivism and reason that even the lable "human being" starts to fade.. Libertarians and objectivists should not cooperate, aswell as no American Objectivists should vote Libertarian Party. They worship Arafat as a freedomfighter, denounce Ayn Rand as a "collectivistic socialist" and claim that the government sholdunt do anything, and even though the whole world goes to hell with the removal of police and military - there not gonna care. Why dont the Objectivist movement in the States form a party of there own? We've got one in Norway, and its great for recrutational purposes! P.S. Pardon my spelling, im a result of a welfare state school system
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