Just wondering what the fellow Canadians here think of the election polls. Layton and the NDP are coming pretty close to Harper and the Cons. I wasn't planning on voting, but now that the NDP is getting steamed up, I think I might have to cast my ballot for the Cons. to vote against the NDP. The Cons. are bad, but they're less bad than the others. Iggy and the Libs are getting their butts handed to them, so they don't seem like much right now. And there are no other parties worth speaking of, unless there are any Freedom Party candidates running, which I'm doubtful of (they'll get my vote this fall though in the provincial elections).
What say you?
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 12:44 PM
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 03:10 PM
I may vote NDP just to hasten the end times...
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There are two kinds of people, Nailers and Hangers... What I want is more nailers and less hangers.
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival." Winston Churchill
"No. Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise." Rorschach (The Watchmen)
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:50 PM
I would like to see Conservative majority so we can have a break from this circus for few years.
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
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or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly;
who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings;
but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause,
who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly.
So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
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Citizenship in a Republic, Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910
"Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplaceable spark. In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but never have been able to reach. The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real, it is possible, it is yours." - Ayn Rand
—Thomas Jefferson
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles,
or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly;
who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings;
but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause,
who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly.
So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt
Citizenship in a Republic, Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910
"Do not let your fire go out, spark by irreplaceable spark. In the hopeless swamps of the not quite, the not yet, and the not at all, do not let the hero in your soul perish and leave only frustration for the life you deserved, but never have been able to reach. The world you desire can be won, it exists, it is real, it is possible, it is yours." - Ayn Rand
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Posted 02 May 2011 - 10:28 AM
So long as all of the mainstream federal parties are committed to violating the individual rights of Canadians and to growing the size and power of government, I do not want any of these parties to win a majority government. I want Ottawa to remain caught in a Mexican standoff. With the parties constantly bickering in a state of gridlock it reveals just how powerful and invasive the bureaucracy has become in Canada.
The more interesting and disturbing development during this election has been the sudden surge in popularity of the NDP. So it looks like we are faced with the moderately brisk walk towards statism under Harper, or the all-out gallop towards statism under Layton. All the choices are horrible, with the CPC only somewhat less loathsome.
Would an NDP government (and the resulting economic apocalypse) bring Canadians to the John Galt Point?
The more interesting and disturbing development during this election has been the sudden surge in popularity of the NDP. So it looks like we are faced with the moderately brisk walk towards statism under Harper, or the all-out gallop towards statism under Layton. All the choices are horrible, with the CPC only somewhat less loathsome.
Would an NDP government (and the resulting economic apocalypse) bring Canadians to the John Galt Point?
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Posted 02 May 2011 - 10:33 PM
The Conservatives have achieved their majority. There were huge changes in all parties. Conservatives now have 166 seats. The NDP now have 103 seats and form the opposition, the Liberals were trounced and now have only 34 seats (a historic low). The Bloc Quebecois have been smashed and now only have 4 seats. The Green Party leader Elizabeth May has been elected giving the Greens their first elected MP.
So what does this mean? Canada has opted for stability to a certain extent but think it's interesting that the country has gone to a situation looking more like a two party system. And those two parties are the two with the greatest difference in principles, to the extent that differences in principle between two welfare-statist parties exist. The Liberals were crushed, as were the Bloc, and I think that the cynicism and inconsistency of these two parties led in no small way to their defeat. But it remains to be seen if the Conservatives will do anything to reduce the size and power of government other than some token gesture. I don't see any evidence that the Conservatives will do anything to make Canada more free or to defend individual rights. Harper just said in his acceptance speech that he plans on balancing the budget without raising taxes, and to give extra support to seniors, and to increase transfer payments to the provinces. I hope this means: fire bureaucrats. I hope this does not mean: print money and inflate away the debt.
On the flip side there are lots of disturbing leftists that are now in the Opposition benches....
Let's see what this does the valuation of the Canadian dollar in the next few days...
So what does this mean? Canada has opted for stability to a certain extent but think it's interesting that the country has gone to a situation looking more like a two party system. And those two parties are the two with the greatest difference in principles, to the extent that differences in principle between two welfare-statist parties exist. The Liberals were crushed, as were the Bloc, and I think that the cynicism and inconsistency of these two parties led in no small way to their defeat. But it remains to be seen if the Conservatives will do anything to reduce the size and power of government other than some token gesture. I don't see any evidence that the Conservatives will do anything to make Canada more free or to defend individual rights. Harper just said in his acceptance speech that he plans on balancing the budget without raising taxes, and to give extra support to seniors, and to increase transfer payments to the provinces. I hope this means: fire bureaucrats. I hope this does not mean: print money and inflate away the debt.
On the flip side there are lots of disturbing leftists that are now in the Opposition benches....
Let's see what this does the valuation of the Canadian dollar in the next few days...
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Posted 03 May 2011 - 10:43 AM
I agree with your analysis. It's unfortunate that May got a seat; is this going to be an uphill trend for them? I hope not.
As for the Cons., I doubt they'll do anything really capitalist. They're state-ists all the way.
As for the Cons., I doubt they'll do anything really capitalist. They're state-ists all the way.
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