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#1 Wotan

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 10:20 AM

If there's any morality, justice, or even rudimentary decency in the cosmos, and the biota of The Milky Way, then the consciousness, spirit, and soul of Steve Jobs lives on. Any alien of any "humanity" and quality would rescue and save his living, thinking essence. As for any super-terrestrials which could do it, but didn't do it -- to hell with them, and the galactic horses they rode in on!

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 12:29 PM

Yes, that is very touching, but that is not how reality works. Here is what justice is , according to Objectivism :

http://aynrandlexico...on/justice.html
Nothing to do with aliens or anyone else fulfilling your personal wishes or what you think Steven Job deserves. Nothing involving what happens after death, but only how people be treated while they are alive.

Sucks huh?
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Posted 06 October 2011 - 03:53 PM

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Don't worry, Wotan; I have it all covered.
I conversed with a rock today that told me Steve Job's soul was currently travelling past the Gligok galaxy, on its way to Valhalla. Now, as is well known, the Gligok galaxy is home to the infamous Kecktox. An evil race known for its proclivity of enslaving souls as they make their cosmic voyage.
Me and the rock both agreed something had to be done, so, being a wizard, I cast a spell on Steve Job's soul to hide it from the Kecktox's souldar.
With any luck, Steve Job's soul should arrive safely at Valhalla, where he will be at peace slaying Jewish money lenders for all of eternity.
Aut disce aut discede.

#4 Wotan

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:31 AM

Many on this earth are small people with petty souls. Life is sweet when you consort with people of the opposite type. Steve Jobs was one.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:24 AM

Many on this earth are small people with petty souls. Life is sweet when you consort with people of the opposite type. Steve Jobs was one.



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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:42 AM

I'm going to take a moment to remind everyone involved here that:
1) I can understand your strong feelings for the greatness of Steve Jobs Wotan, but this is not a forum where discussion about the potential for aliens dispensing post-mortem intergalactic justice is appropriate. This is an Objectivist forum.
2) To those responding to Wotan's post, lets end it here. Snarkiness and thinly veiled ad hominem are also out of place here.

Edited by SapereAude, 07 October 2011 - 12:12 PM.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 11:45 AM

Not that it matters, but I found Wotan's metaphorical flourishes quite fun, and a good tribute to Jobs.
I have no problems with "soul" (nor did Rand) and I've been an atheist since..ah, you don't want to know.
Let's not be so literal, guys.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 02:22 PM

I had no idea whether Wotan was being serious, joking, or trolling. I posted something that I figured covered all the bases.

Edited by Gramlich, 07 October 2011 - 02:24 PM.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 03:08 PM

Not that it matters, but I found Wotan's metaphorical flourishes quite fun, and a good tribute to Jobs.
I have no problems with "soul" (nor did Rand) and I've been an atheist since..ah, you don't want to know.
Let's not be so literal, guys.


Hey, I use the word "soul" now and again. In a similar fashion to how Ayn Rand sometimes did. I have no issue with that word used in such a way. Though I do not think that was what he meant. It was generally not clear what he meant or if he was being serious or was not expecting us to take him very literally.

Though it was certainly a pretty fun tribute, I will give you that. :D
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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:24 PM

Q: What do you think will happen when you die?


A: "I assume I'll be buried. I don't believe in mysticism or life after death. This doesn't mean I believe man's mind is necessarily materialistic; but neither is it mystical. We know that we have a mind and a body, and that neither can exist without the other. Therefore, when I die, that will be the end of me. I don't think it will be the end of my philosophy."


Just replace 'philosophy' with ingenuity, creativity, industriousness, whatever, and I think you've got what the death of Steve Jobs means. None of this Wotan gobbledygook.
"And the earth is littered with mangled cripples, who don't know what has hit them or why, who crawl as best they can on their crushed limbs through their lightless days, with no answer save that pain is the core of existence - and the traffic cops of morality chortle and tell them that man, by his nature, is unable to walk."

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 04:03 AM

For anyone interested, Steve Jobs' sister wrote an obituary in the NY Times.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 09:16 AM

"Death didn't happen to Steve, he achieved it."
Oh, wow.

#13 Wotan

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:52 PM

Just for the record...I still want to live forever! Me and Steve, baby. :)





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