Has anyone fully applied the method of reduction to the the virtues (rationality, independence, integrity, honesty, justice, production, pride)? I would be interested in seeing that.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 06:55 AM
Actually if anybody has applied the method of reduction to anything I'd be interested in seeing that.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:58 AM
Peikoff covers honesty really well in Understanding Objectivism, which I just finished reading and highly recommmend.
Do you mean reduction to axioms or first princples? If so, Oism doesn't work that way. Briefly, I would say rationality arises from the need to live by principles and reason as man's means of survival. The other virtues come from rationailty and other aspects of the context of life as a human (individual and social). For example, Peikoff says that honesty can only be fully validated by referring to at least some of the other virtues (e.g. independence, pride), which are at an equal level hierarchically.
Do you mean reduction to axioms or first princples? If so, Oism doesn't work that way. Briefly, I would say rationality arises from the need to live by principles and reason as man's means of survival. The other virtues come from rationailty and other aspects of the context of life as a human (individual and social). For example, Peikoff says that honesty can only be fully validated by referring to at least some of the other virtues (e.g. independence, pride), which are at an equal level hierarchically.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:28 AM
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:28 AM
thanks. someone had just recommended this to me, it's exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for.Check out the Inductive Quest blog
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:01 PM
Virtues could be eventually reduced to values and values to the standard of value which could be reduced to the Law of identity.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:45 PM
"The Inductive Quest" is more or less a complete _copy_ of what Peikoff is doing in OTI.
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Posted 09 June 2012 - 12:46 AM
Peikoff says a lot of stuff in OTI which one should know when you're reducing and inducing on your own. For example, why the inductive hierarchy is different from the hierarchy in OPAR. So, while Inductive Quest's (more or less) transcript can be helpful, I just want to emphasize that there's a lot of valuable information and advice in that course, which isn't mentioned elsewhere. At least not to my knowledge.
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Posted 09 June 2012 - 09:31 AM
Has nobody else done what Peikoff was doing in OTI for other things? I know Tristan was talking about it but I don't think he's posted anything online."The Inductive Quest" is more or less a complete _copy_ of what Peikoff is doing in OTI.
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