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    Mr.Stickels got a reaction from Sirius1 in Accepted determinism   
    "You are saying that a person using free will can become committed to a cycle of addiction (biological or psychological) against their will."

    I am a determinist...so I am not saying anything about a person using free will...

    I am saying that people doing potentially destructive things are more prone to if they think they can will their way out of danger. As far as the physics thing, i was going with your analogy and what i thought you meant by it. I didnt make it up, i said "If i understand you correct" . As for the definition of determinism i thought that was an obvious thing. If you werent aware of what it meant, i am not sure why you felt a need to post. The definition is as follows.

    "Determinism is the view that every event, including human cognition, behavior, decision, and action, is causally determined by an unbroken chain of prior occurrences. Determinists believe the universe is fully governed by causal laws resulting in only one possible state at any point in time"

    Its nothing mystical, as I see it, it is just common sense.

    ALSO, read my first post and you will realize that nobody has even addressed the issue at hand. Look at the title of the thread. "This isnt a free will/determinism debate."

    Stick to the topic or dont post here. There are plenty of free will/determinism debate threads. This is not one of them.
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    Mr.Stickels got a reaction from dream_weaver in Accepted determinism   
    I have always given a lot of thought into determinism. I have concluded that there is no way around the fact that we are governed by the laws of cause and effect. This isnt a free will/determinism debate. What I am bringing up is the implications it would have if it were considered a fact among everyone in the world. I believe the world would be a better place all around. Once we see the world for what it really is we can begin to fix the problems and prevent new ones from occurring. I see the free will side as trying to use a program with no understanding of what makes up the program. You can only guess until you understand the underlying principals. People would know how to avoid the temptation to smoke instead of saying "oh, i can just have this one cigarette and not start again". Almost everyone who is in the process of kicking the habit is going to go right out and buy a new pack. That illusion of free will is destructive. Humans may have many ideas or thoughts at once but the fact is that everyone on the earth will always go with the strongest desire. Smoking is a very small and basic argument but the same logic can be applied to everything that encompass the human thought process. Which is pretty much everything. So in short, I believe determinism is not only a physical law but a mindset that could lead to the solution of all of the problems our world is facing.
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    Mr.Stickels got a reaction from Amaroq in Accepted determinism   
    I have always given a lot of thought into determinism. I have concluded that there is no way around the fact that we are governed by the laws of cause and effect. This isnt a free will/determinism debate. What I am bringing up is the implications it would have if it were considered a fact among everyone in the world. I believe the world would be a better place all around. Once we see the world for what it really is we can begin to fix the problems and prevent new ones from occurring. I see the free will side as trying to use a program with no understanding of what makes up the program. You can only guess until you understand the underlying principals. People would know how to avoid the temptation to smoke instead of saying "oh, i can just have this one cigarette and not start again". Almost everyone who is in the process of kicking the habit is going to go right out and buy a new pack. That illusion of free will is destructive. Humans may have many ideas or thoughts at once but the fact is that everyone on the earth will always go with the strongest desire. Smoking is a very small and basic argument but the same logic can be applied to everything that encompass the human thought process. Which is pretty much everything. So in short, I believe determinism is not only a physical law but a mindset that could lead to the solution of all of the problems our world is facing.
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    Mr.Stickels got a reaction from ttime in Accepted determinism   
    I have always given a lot of thought into determinism. I have concluded that there is no way around the fact that we are governed by the laws of cause and effect. This isnt a free will/determinism debate. What I am bringing up is the implications it would have if it were considered a fact among everyone in the world. I believe the world would be a better place all around. Once we see the world for what it really is we can begin to fix the problems and prevent new ones from occurring. I see the free will side as trying to use a program with no understanding of what makes up the program. You can only guess until you understand the underlying principals. People would know how to avoid the temptation to smoke instead of saying "oh, i can just have this one cigarette and not start again". Almost everyone who is in the process of kicking the habit is going to go right out and buy a new pack. That illusion of free will is destructive. Humans may have many ideas or thoughts at once but the fact is that everyone on the earth will always go with the strongest desire. Smoking is a very small and basic argument but the same logic can be applied to everything that encompass the human thought process. Which is pretty much everything. So in short, I believe determinism is not only a physical law but a mindset that could lead to the solution of all of the problems our world is facing.
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