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  1. There's probably already been a few threads on this. Anyway, I sent this to Peikoff, so I thought it'd be cool to start a thread. There might not be enough info in my question to know what the correct answer is, so there's also the question regarding the situation in the book itself (with any relevant context). "In the graphic novel, THE WATCHMEN, a character named Ozymandias fakes an extra-terrestrial invasion which kills millions in order unify governments around defeating extra-terrestrials as opposed to trying to destroy each other. He does this while the U.S. and the Soviet Union are
  2. Are we talking about "I'm experiencing my existence"? I suppose that's sort of non-propositional because you can't really demonstrate it to someone else?
  3. Robert, it's been a while since I read the article, and I remember it being very complicated. Could you, briefly, re-state what the 'doctrine of the arbitrary (as Peikoff has stated it)' is and why it's wrong?
  4. I'm not too sure I'm convinced of this, but this is the best I can come up with: The only appropriate answer to this question is "Because I want to". "But why?" "Because I want to" (ad infinitum)
  5. Yeah, all of it really. In retrospect, I should have realized the distinction Dream Weaver pointed out. However, Campbell does a perfect job (as far as I can tell) arguing against the position he sets out to oppose.
  6. I've just started reading David Kelley's 'Evidence of the Senses' (great so far!) I realize there's already a thread on this, but I didn't find one (semi-recent) with criticisms of the work. From what I've read on various threads and other sites, most of the posters here and Oists in general agree with the work (I think Peikoff does too?), so I'm curious: Are there any criticisms of the case he presents in this book which you agree with?
  7. And he wrote such a long article. Poor guy. I guess it's a valuable critique of the straw man position he attacks, at least.
  8. Sure. I'm not saying Oism doesn't have an ontology, just that it's doesn't have info under the heading of ontology. Specifically, what's the Oist proof of the existence of free will and refutation of solipsism?
  9. "What Yang seems to be doing here is defending a place for uncaused knowledge, mysticism." Not uncaused, just not from sense perception. In other words, if someone "put an idea into your head" using a yet-uninvented machine or God/mysticism. "Our minds are not blank." How would you interpret Rand's 'tabula rasa' statements? "You did not write what Yang argued" Here's what is boils down to: how can children form a concept without a concept? "You don't give enough of what Yang writes to make sense of his objection." He basically reiterates the problem of induction. I think P
  10. So you're arguing that Peikoff is correct, and that Campbell's mistake is to confuse the "arbitrary" with the "fallacious"?
  11. "Rand crosses the is/ought gap via induction as well." How?
  12. Another major criticism: "She write's, 'A concept subsumes all the characteristics of its referents, including the yet-to-be-discovered.' This is tantamount to saying that a concept is its referents. What Rand mean is this: The concept of a man includes all that has been discovered about man--man is a living thing that utilizes logic, moves, walks on two legs, possesses 1.2 million neurons in each of his optic nerves, etc.--but it also includes other characteristics yet to be discovered. That is, the concept of man is identical to existent man. There are several problems with Rand's clai
  13. Perhaps my biggest criticism of Oism (among many) is that it does not have an (explicit) ontology, just a brag-bag of assertions "man is tabula rasa", "man has free will", etc, without any type of attempt at a systematic demonstration of these views (like in Sartre's "Being and Nothingness" or Merleau-Ponty's "Phenomenology of Perception"). So what's the role of ontology in Oism? What is Oist ontology? How does it fit in with the rest of the philosophy?
  14. A guy named Robert Campbell has critiqued Peikoff's views on the 'arbitrary'. http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~campber/peikovianarbitrary.pdf I suppose this technically isn't Oism, because he introduced us to this after Rand's death, though that didn't stop him from putting it in OPAR. Hm... I think Campbell's case makes sense. Whadda y'all think?
  15. I just finished reading through all of these. Great stuff. I put them in a good reading order. -- 1. Reformulation - living organisms and valuing. Rand's metaethics makes sense if we ditch the 'immortal robot' argument http://www.reasonpap.../10/rp_10_7.pdf 2. Criticism - Rand and is/ought problem. Rand doesn't bridge the gap. http://mises.org/jou...s/7_1/7_1_4.pdf 3. Criticism - role of consent in ethics. Rand's ethics are, by her own standard, reductionistically rationalistic and subjectivist. http://www.aynrandst...1_1gjohnson.pdf 4. Criticism - choice to live. Rand's asse
  16. http://www.aynrandstudies.com/jars/archives/jars9-1/jars9_1rbissell.pdf Essay by a guy named Roger Bissell which argues that basically argues that Peikoff's original explanation of the intrinsic/subjective/objective epistemological trichotomy is preferable to Rand's revised version. Not sure what to make of it (complicated stuff), but he makes a good case. Whadda y'all think?
  17. http://www.aynrandst..._2bregister.pdf In this essay, a guy named Bryan Register argues that Rand confused concepts with words. He concludes that a concept is better defined as an ability. Pretty good essay. I'm not sure if I agree with him, but he seems to be on the right track. Whadda y'all think?
  18. http://mises.org/journals/jls/7_1/7_1_4.pdf In this essay, a guy named Patrick O'Neill argues that Rand failed to bridge the is/ought gap. There are some obviously weak points of reasoning/misrepresentations of Oism in the essay, but the essay basically boils down to a section near the end, which basically is this: So some criminal does contradictory action. Why is that necessarily bad? How do we get from 'it's contradictory' to 'one ought not do this'? One doesn't follow the other. I have to agree with him. Rand seems to be on the right track, but at this point, I'm not sure how w
  19. http://www.aynrandstudies.com/jars/archives/jars7-2/jars7_2mjetton.pdf In this essay, a guy named Merlin Jetton argues that Rand's definition of concepts makes more sense if we say "details" omitted (or similar) as opposed to "measurements". I agree with his case. Whadda y'all think?
  20. In "Reconsidering Ayn Rand", a guy named Michael Yang criticizes Oism. He's a Christian and sums up his case with "I heard God tell me Objectivism was false", but, still, compared to most criticisms of Oism, he does a relatively good job of choosing his arguments, arguing his points, and not misinterpreting/mischaracterizing Oism. I couldn't find a thread on him (via search) so I thought I'd summarize his points here. I hoping other people have read the book and/or can refer me to an essay/thread with counter-arguments. Some of these criticisms I think get taken care of in Kelley's es
  21. It seems to me that you're saying something to the effect of "How does it make sense to appropriate the value of some thing someone owns?" thereby implying "A patent isn't legitimate property because it controls what someone else supposedly owns--they already owned it so why do they no longer own it because they reorganize it in a certain fashion (i.e. a new invention)." But where did the idea for that invention come from? Personally, I've reached the (tentative) conclusion that the vast majority of patents and copyrights that have ever existed, if not all of them, were immoral, more or
  22. From: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ayn-rand/#TheCon Critics have objected that Rand offers no argument against the possibility that some concepts may have their referents determined by the definition (Browne 2000; Long 2005a, 2005b). Rand describes the meaning of “capitalism,” for example, as “full, pure, uncontrolled, unregulated laissez-faire” (1964a, p. 33). Since Rand does not regard such as a system as ever having existed, it's hard to see how the concept of “capitalism” could have been formed on the basis of its referents (what referents?); if instead Rand's definition of “capita
  23. http://www.amazon.com/Objectivism-Corruption-Rationality-Critique-Epistemology/dp/0595267335 Anyone know where there are some critiques of this critique?
  24. First, I'm really confused because it sounded like you were opposing patents in the previous post. Second, why is this a good standard? Also, don't you see the big problem with this: If I invent X, and X is very useful, and X there's a demand to use X for hundreds of years, then I have the ability to restrict the use of X for hundreds of years, which in turn restricts the ability of others to invent things, even if this invention would've been invented by someone else a few days later. How is this irrelevant to the question of how long the patent should last? I honestly have no idea w
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