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tadmjones

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  1. What would you consider to be relevant to that post specifically that it needs the attention of the moderators/owners?
  2. On the grounds that 'semitic' people includes populations not exclusively Jewish ? Or on the grounds that the statement itself is antisemitic?
  3. I didn’t realize that comment was posted , I thought I removed the whole comment. That was an initial thought in regards to a broader comment on intrinsic value or on what a ‘correct intrinsic value would be based.
  4. Aren’t abstractions only ever functions of a person or more specifically a product of an action only possible by consciousness.
  5. I think in discussions like these semantics or meaning become confused. In English value is both a noun and a verb. Value as a verb is the act of a conscious agent differentiating between alternatives. And as a noun it is the abstraction that identifies a concrete attribute that satisfies the utility of the valuer’s valuing. There is no ‘value’ ‘in’ the table qua relative level raised surface, though the utility provided by the concrete attributes can be discovered by a discriminating agent.
  6. I always thought the other branches of the Abrahamic religions held animosity toward the Jews because of their status as ‘the Chosen’ coupled with an arrogance that allows for questioning/debating the Word. Christians and Muslims take a more submissive posture and see sin in disobedience, that and the deicide thing. The more secular nature of modernity carried with it the ancient resentments. Jews being a minority among the people and places they dispersed to and the insistence on not assimilating on the religious level lead to an easy identification of ‘others’ against the social background that it is almost natural they would become identified targets of jealousy and hatred. So yeah , Jewish behavior causes antisemitism, but is it their fault ? As a ‘gentile’ I always admired their spunkiness. I mean c’mon , the ruler of the Universe actually comes to you and lays out the rules and your answer is to be like ‘are you sure about that?’.
  7. I don’t think it is necessary. I think I understand how you are using the terms. As long as it is agreed theory is not proof and only identified aspects of the ‘really real’ are proof. That we don’t mistake the map for the terrain , or try and pull the terrain ‘out of the map’. That the science of physics is about building models in order to predict the behavior of nature, and that the theories are always only models of nature and the proof of a theory is how closely it apprehends nature(the really real, objective realit).
  8. Do you mean that something can be 'proved' theoretically, or was 'obviously' meant as a double entendre so to speak ?
  9. Proof doesn't come from theories, and I don't think there are any normal temperatures or pressures. Surface of the earth substances and enviros is a very specific and relatively minuscule range compared to a cosmic landscape. It might be easier to train charge or electron flow to be agnostic to resistivity, than to produce a substance that instantiates the requisite properties in such a specific range.
  10. I’m the kind of scum that wonders what a ten year old Gazan today is going to be doing in twenty years.
  11. Forced to endure ? The post Hamas atrocities rhetoric is inflammatory but not without understanding what motivated it. The ferocity of the reprisals is brutal but again not without understanding the lethality is directed toward members of Hamas and whatever those speakers deem connected to providing Hamas the means to exist. Hamas has put Israel in the best position to orchestrate the complete depopulation of Gaza , even allowing for brutal means that surely impact the civilian populations, means that would not have been condoned by the ‘community of nations’ without the attacks. Reading an article on the water situation in Gaza , it mentioned that so many people have moved to the southern portion that a desalination plant that severed a regional population of 300k , now has to produce water for a population of 1.5 million since Oct 7. If Israel’s intent was actual genocide instead of removal the military action would be against that sector in particular , but the article states the new influx is made of Gazans fleeing the military actions against Hamas armed forces in other areas. I think the repeated reference to the biblical story that ‘proves’ the genocidal intent is a story told as a reminder to vanquish an enemy or you will never be free of reprisals. The moral I think being to be rid wholly of an enemy , didn’t Saul get in trouble for not killing all the Amaleks and their cattle? Hamas raped and murdered Jews and then said they would continue until Israel was no more , the call to remember the Amalek is a call to end the threat entirely, not sure I blame them as far as reprisals meted out. But it is clear, or clearer that statehood for Gazans is not a feasible outcome and as refugees the civilians in the region need to be relocated , or accept perpetual forced confinement and deprivation.
  12. I don't know but perhaps, again that word, they would or could countenance a Christian theocracy, not that any such thing is remotely possible. I was thinking more the impossibility of a non belligerent state toward Israel emerging from the current Gazan milieu. Moses took forty years to get the Egypt 'out of' the Israelis , how long should we expect it to take to get the Gaza out of the Gazans , if at all possible?
  13. Morris does mention a growing right ward shift in the demographics which will/could play out in the governance going forward. I do not think 'right wing' Israelis would welcome even "repentant" Gazans, but I think the label 'most' would still qualify as descriptive of the entire current population, but I do not know obviously.
  14. No I think then and now that perhaps he was right. Do you think he/I is/am right ?
  15. Or perhaps witnessing a change of premise in real time. Insert goofy smiley face with wagging tongue thingy here.
  16. I am not sure why identifying my sarcasm in this instance is important to you. Any sarcasm for the idea would be in deference to the loss of any productive livinghoods some Gazans may have , heroically, cobbled together in order to enjoy their own fulfillment, that would be realized in a quasi forced relocation. As to the idea the population is relatively young , I think that does contribute to a more humane view , that removed from that specific environment and its associated conditions the youth as a whole has a better chance for flourishing.
  17. I’d say like 20/80. The more I think about the more rational a UN sanctioned and driven relocation program should be implemented to end the generational refugee problem in Gaza. Israel would not stand for an Islamic fundamentalist state in Gaza, so what could be a possible solution ?
  18. Not wholly, no , perhaps relocating the population could be more humane.
  19. Why should that be funny? Nothing even remotely along such lines is conceivable as an end to the ongoing tragedy, or is the situation not that catastrophic?
  20. Perhaps Ben Gvir is correct and given the population of Gaza is currently 50% children as has been reported , this specific time in history makes the idea of putting an end to such an aberration through removal more palatable to world sentiment given the ability of a younger generation to more easily handle a major assimilation to a novel environment.
  21. Without verifying the facts , I would judge Benny Morris’ commentary and conclusions as coming from a good faith and objective perspective on the history of the roots and subsequent events of the extended conflict. I like the way he said that until certain materials are available he can not make any specific judgements concerning certain things even though he does state his impressions based on what he knows specifically now. As to the integrity of his scholarship , not being in a position to ascertain personally, I would assume a fair treatment , especially on hearing the subject matter of his latest work on the war crimes committed in the region in 48.
  22. If the there were no counter productivity, why does the presenter suggest shorter lockdown periods may have been beneficial, so essentially she is saying the length of the actual lockdowns had ,one would assume, less than optimal consequences. Are counter factuals determinative? Thenpolicy makers knew early that the IFR was not what was being reported to the public , and those who tried to speak to actual situation were censured from public discourse and shunned professionally. Prominent officials in the US were seen evading mitigation efforts , do you think they did so despite knowledge to the danger those actions posed to themselves or the public? Was there any recorded influenza deaths during the ‘waves’? The named waves which by the way really helped keep ‘us’ informed about the ferocity and global transmission continued to be during the whole pandemic, until it finally ended. Do the mentioned studies include economic forecasts of the consequences of the non corporate businesses that didn’t survive the lockdowns , the consequences that are still ongoing ? As far as determining life years or some such, how do they account for the effects on educational development of the children affected by the unnecessary school closures, and the danger or lack thereof to (or from) the little germ ba.. er I mean children was known very early. The prevention of safe and effective treatments basically caused the appearance of a need for lockdown measures , to say nothing of what the active suppression of alternative treatments did to the appearance of justification for mass inoculations. Theese are now easy to see in hindsight , no ?
  23. Thanks for a refresher on the Christian notion of sin , going through some of the linked material reveals I am /have been under a more comfortable apprehension of sin in the other Abrahamic traditions. Sin more as a failing as opposed to a corporeal state.
  24. We know now that Covid wasn’t as dangerous as we were being told, that lockdowns weren’t only not necessary but were counterproductive. The policy makers that engineered the ‘innovated methods’ for voting in 2020, were the same policy makers that were aware that Covid and the mitigation efforts were not necessary or productive. I wonder what the rationalization for election suspension will look like from such rational and objective quarters when it comes to assessing the next round of innovative measures. Are you still masking ?
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