tadmjones
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Lol, we should allow illegal entry into the country of military aged men traveling alone, because only 1 in 20k is an identified terrorism threat. The Pfizer initial Covid gene therapy trials showed that the number to vaccinate to statistically prevent 1 death was 22k, did HB apply the same argument against the introduction of potential harm to 22 k in order to ‘save’ one ?
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Pretty sneaky turning a story on driving to an anecdote about AR driving on an O’ist forum, pretty sneaky , Jon.
When Soviet propaganda is the obvious go to, pretty sneaky.
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He also agrees that one must be 'brain dead' to see Biden's administration as illegitimate. He got 81 million legitimate votes and was surrounded by 30k federal troops as he was sworn in, now that is legitimate!
This country is a democracy, not some conspiracy minded oligarchy that centralized power through DC, when are white rural voters gonna di.. I mean see things as they are !
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I didn't realize that was a quote of AR, that poster's items are sometimes hard to parse on different screens, isn't it a quote of Cowen?
But the comment still stands for the author having used it in this context. Poor and white are relatively objective description, trash even colloquially is a subjective qualifier.
Did whoever made this statement canvas or spend time among the p,w,t to be able to assess the level of character deficiencies in each person? Intellect isn't a product of situations beyond one's control,eg relative poverty, low social rank, though elements of that environment can have influences and emotional coloring, but as humans are volitional beings everyone's intellect is a self made attribute, unless one thinks genetics plays as less than subordinate role.
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Iowa did not.
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"..poor white trash" , yeah great insight on racism there! and of course in the 'south' cuz slavery !
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But why do you consider a reaction (?) is warranted?
At this point I assume you consider it anti Jewish, and that that 'fact' is intuitively obvious to the casual observer and a reputable site, presumably O'ist or not , should not allow their good name sullied by an obvious offense to decency.
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9 minutes ago, AlexL said:
On whatever grounds they will find relevant.
What would you consider to be relevant to that post specifically that it needs the attention of the moderators/owners?
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1 hour ago, AlexL said:
Do the moderators, the owners @dream_weaver @DavidVhave something to say to this?
On the grounds that 'semitic' people includes populations not exclusively Jewish ?
Or on the grounds that the statement itself is antisemitic?
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On 1/12/2024 at 4:26 PM, EC said:
Abstractions are higher hierarchical concepts of concepts that can and must be traced back to physical reality conceptually, regardless of how complex this analysis actually is, to be valid. Otherwise, they are simply imagination, rationalistic fantasy, floating abstractions, or completely invalid and ignorable arbitrary assertions.
I didn’t realize that comment was posted , I thought I removed the whole comment. That was an initial thought in regards to a broader comment on intrinsic value or on what a ‘correct intrinsic value would be based.
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Aren’t abstractions only ever functions of a person or more specifically a product of an action only possible by consciousness.
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I think in discussions like these semantics or meaning become confused.
In English value is both a noun and a verb. Value as a verb is the act of a conscious agent differentiating between alternatives. And as a noun it is the abstraction that identifies a concrete attribute that satisfies the utility of the valuer’s valuing.There is no ‘value’ ‘in’ the table qua relative level raised surface, though the utility provided by the concrete attributes can be discovered by a discriminating agent.
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I always thought the other branches of the Abrahamic religions held animosity toward the Jews because of their status as ‘the Chosen’ coupled with an arrogance that allows for questioning/debating the Word. Christians and Muslims take a more submissive posture and see sin in disobedience, that and the deicide thing.
The more secular nature of modernity carried with it the ancient resentments. Jews being a minority among the people and places they dispersed to and the insistence on not assimilating on the religious level lead to an easy identification of ‘others’ against the social background that it is almost natural they would become identified targets of jealousy and hatred.
So yeah , Jewish behavior causes antisemitism, but is it their fault ? As a ‘gentile’ I always admired their spunkiness. I mean c’mon , the ruler of the Universe actually comes to you and lays out the rules and your answer is to be like ‘are you sure about that?’.
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31 minutes ago, AlexL said:
But are you still interested? Should I continue?
I don’t think it is necessary. I think I understand how you are using the terms. As long as it is agreed theory is not proof and only identified aspects of the ‘really real’ are proof.
That we don’t mistake the map for the terrain , or try and pull the terrain ‘out of the map’.
That the science of physics is about building models in order to predict the behavior of nature, and that the theories are always only models of nature and the proof of a theory is how closely it apprehends nature(the really real, objective realit).
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Nope no questions.
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41 minutes ago, AlexL said:
Does this refer to something I wrote? If it does, what exactly do you dispute?
13 hours ago, AlexL said:But, obviously, it was not proved theoretically that superconductivity at normal temperatures and pressures is NOT possible, so that the quest continues.
Do you mean that something can be 'proved' theoretically, or was 'obviously' meant as a double entendre so to speak ?
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Proof doesn't come from theories, and I don't think there are any normal temperatures or pressures.
Surface of the earth substances and enviros is a very specific and relatively minuscule range compared to a cosmic landscape.
It might be easier to train charge or electron flow to be agnostic to resistivity, than to produce a substance that instantiates the requisite properties in such a specific range.
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I’m the kind of scum that wonders what a ten year old Gazan today is going to be doing in twenty years.
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Forced to endure ?
The post Hamas atrocities rhetoric is inflammatory but not without understanding what motivated it. The ferocity of the reprisals is brutal but again not without understanding the lethality is directed toward members of Hamas and whatever those speakers deem connected to providing Hamas the means to exist.
Hamas has put Israel in the best position to orchestrate the complete depopulation of Gaza , even allowing for brutal means that surely impact the civilian populations, means that would not have been condoned by the ‘community of nations’ without the attacks.
Reading an article on the water situation in Gaza , it mentioned that so many people have moved to the southern portion that a desalination plant that severed a regional population of 300k , now has to produce water for a population of 1.5 million since Oct 7. If Israel’s intent was actual genocide instead of removal the military action would be against that sector in particular , but the article states the new influx is made of Gazans fleeing the military actions against Hamas armed forces in other areas.
I think the repeated reference to the biblical story that ‘proves’ the genocidal intent is a story told as a reminder to vanquish an enemy or you will never be free of reprisals. The moral I think being to be rid wholly of an enemy , didn’t Saul get in trouble for not killing all the Amaleks and their cattle?
Hamas raped and murdered Jews and then said they would continue until Israel was no more , the call to remember the Amalek is a call to end the threat entirely, not sure I blame them as far as reprisals meted out.
But it is clear, or clearer that statehood for Gazans is not a feasible outcome and as refugees the civilians in the region need to be relocated , or accept perpetual forced confinement and deprivation.
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35 minutes ago, necrovore said:
A separation of religion and state, and a requirement that any laws that exist have to be justified based on objective reality and reason and nothing else.
I don't know but perhaps, again that word, they would or could countenance a Christian theocracy, not that any such thing is remotely possible.
I was thinking more the impossibility of a non belligerent state toward Israel emerging from the current Gazan milieu.
Moses took forty years to get the Egypt 'out of' the Israelis , how long should we expect it to take to get the Gaza out of the Gazans , if at all possible?
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4 minutes ago, whYNOT said:
Others, who quickly recognize the economic and living standards improving their lives, outside the never-ending Gazan/Hamas death spiral, and who begin a reconciliation with Israel would surely be welcomed to remain on by most Israelis.
Morris does mention a growing right ward shift in the demographics which will/could play out in the governance going forward. I do not think 'right wing' Israelis would welcome even "repentant" Gazans, but I think the label 'most' would still qualify as descriptive of the entire current population, but I do not know obviously.
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55 minutes ago, AlexL said:
So, in fact you do not confirm that you did not fully meant what you wrote. OK then.
No I think then and now that perhaps he was right.
Do you think he/I is/am right ?
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Or perhaps witnessing a change of premise in real time. Insert goofy smiley face with wagging tongue thingy here.
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2 hours ago, AlexL said:
There are ways to signal that it is not 100% straight, like an emoji ...
I am not sure why identifying my sarcasm in this instance is important to you.
Any sarcasm for the idea would be in deference to the loss of any productive livinghoods some Gazans may have , heroically, cobbled together in order to enjoy their own fulfillment, that would be realized in a quasi forced relocation.
As to the idea the population is relatively young , I think that does contribute to a more humane view , that removed from that specific environment and its associated conditions the youth as a whole has a better chance for flourishing.
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As if AR could have swaddled herself in the same moral certainty of rightness and just stayed in St Petersburg. Moral certainty always trumps pragmatic and earthly concerns! Just smacks of religious zealotry.