RussK
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Thomas: Court orders are the instrument that would have been used to prompt domestic web services (search, advertisement, and financial) to stop doing business with the foreign internet site, primarily through de-listing. Google would have to filter their results, advertisers would have to de-list sites and would be prevented from providing monetary rewards, and transactional services would be told to stop assisting the site and its patrons. All of these options would provide great resources in dealing with the foreign infringing sites. One problem, however, which you refer to, is that no penalty had yet been introduced for domestic sites that refused to comply with the court order. Adam Mossoff and one of the articles he listed in his facebook note discussed this problem, one which seems like a strange omission; but then again, the bill was still being worked on. Once the atmosphere clears out a little, with election day having passed, congress can go back to the drawing board--hopefully not completely--and discuss what form of punishment would be appropriate to domestic operators. I also came to the discussion late. I had heard about SOPA months ago while on the phone with someone, but I didn't even know what the person was talking about. Then came a wave of discussion on a few Objectivist sites, Wikipedia's actions, and my twitter and facebook getting blown up to make me want to become much more informed. With so many people advocating for something in the same terms, plus the idea that the masses on the internet tend to easily get behind a cause, I became suspicious real quick. At that point, I located the bill online and read it, which prompted me to post a few comments here and elsewhere. Maybe the drama of the Black-out day would have been vastly different had those that want to protect intellectual property been educated about the legislation. I recently read an article, I think it was in NY Mag, where the writer was advocating for intellectual property protection, and he blamed the entertainment industry for what eventually turned into the fiasco surrounding SOPA. Essentially, he said that had the entertainment industry not been so quick with pushing the bill toward approval, and actually put some time and effort into informing the public, the situation wouldn't have gotten so out of hand.
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I was wondering that the other day, but it had been a long time since I posted here, so I couldn't remember if there was ever spell checking or not. I tend to agree with everything you have said recently about the bill, and I too am glad that it wasn't passed as originally written. However, I am disappointed that the bill has been shelved, and saddened that congressmen ran with their tails tucked between their legs, most likely due to public outrage rather than anything of substance. There needs to be debate and new laws to protect intellectual property, and the sooner such law is passed the better it will be for IP holders. Concerning Adam Mossoff's warning to Objectivsts, I think he meant more than what you summarized. An important point that I believe he was trying to make was that the advocates against SOPA are by and large anti-IP in general, and to take their assumptions on face value is wrong. For example, the EFF has never been on the right side of IP protection. Additionally, comparisons of SOPA to Chinese and Egyptian style internet censorship is patently wrong, overboard, and misleading. To equate SOPA with such censorship is to marginalize an extremely important issue of institutionalized censorship and rights violations, making a mockery of a serious issue. The warning went to remind Objectivists that we are for the protection of IP, while much of the anti-SOPA advocacy was spurred on by anti-IP crusaders, and to take analysis from such people will lead to some very misguided assumptions and statements.
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Hopefully I can get e everything done that I need to so I can watch the Giants-49rs game tonight.
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Thank you for that link. I'll have to read it when I get a chance.
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Due Process* is given by the fifth? and 14 amendments. Foreign operators do not get those protections of our constitution, of which they do not have any support, allegiance, or obligation. No site will be under the obligation to check "every upload," and the bill makes that fairly clear. **Due process is not limited to the context of which I speak in this instance. What you said above, for criminal law in the US, is crucial.
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Finally, that parisite known as Kim 'Dotcom' has been brought to some sort of justice. This is an example of the US Codes of SOPA put into practice for the properties in country. I really can't say much more about this. To me it is straight forward: protect IP. Notice, however, that the Kiwis were heavily inovled here, just like how we engage the rest of the civilzed world in IP protection. SOPA needed more work, yet it shouldn't have been thrown out on face vailue, especially since it is such a short bill to read. To me, what happened two days ago was nothing but populist bullshit. edit: my point is like i've said: there are already US laws regarding what's in this country's jurisdiction. The actions against 'Dotcom' go to prove that SOPA had nothing to do with what anti-SOPA advocates were saying.
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That's a good question. However, if you go to the opencongress link at the top of webpage referenced, you will see how the contributions were identified as being funds in support of SOPA. Of course, organizing campaign contributions in such a manner is misleading, especially when phrased as "money to support SOPA."
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The url referenced in on the webpage works fine now. I just checked my RSS bookmark for the site, and it says .net. I didn't know it had changed. Thanks.
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I don't disagree with your analysis of Due Process provided by the 14th Amendment, but it is definitely limited in scope. Due process does in fact also deal with equal enforcement of the law and the procedures provided within that law. One must also not forget that the scope of SOPA is to deal primarily with "foreign infringing sites," which Sec. 201 highlights in its title, and such sites would most likely not fall into the jurisdiction of being covered by our Due Process laws. In fact, Sec. 201 seems to make clear that if such sites operated in the United States ("domestic internet sites), they would fall under current law and would "be subject to seizure in the United States in an action brought by the Attorney General if such site were a domestic Internet site." As far as the technical details of shutting the sites down, it seems that you are implying that only domain names and DNS servers will be targeted, an allegation made by various anti-SOPA advocates. However, the bill points out other avenues of approach, such as sub-domains, IP, and IP allocation entities. Additionally, taking out whole domains that are full of user-generated content, because of some users' posts of pirated content, is simply not provided for in the bill, unless that site fulfills the definitions required for action--those requirements are not as specific as they can and probably should be, but it is clear that YouTube, et al, do not qualify. The provision does bring up the topic of immunity for services that have policy of removing pirated material, and you refer to self-policing. Since when did self-policing become a negative concept? While we don't take the concept as far as the anarcho-capitalists, generally Objectivists regard self-policing as being in order when the law is absent or insufficient, or even simply consider it just responsible behavior. I find nothing draconian at all about granting immunity from liability the websites that engage in self-policing as described in the bill; it is just another example of how websites like Facebook would not be shutdown.
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Strangely I cannot use the chat. When I click the url it tells me to "Please Login in to the Forum to use chat"
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Which section in #SOPA has Wikipedia violated, will violate in the future, or even applies to the site in general? I've never been able to find an example in the bill itself.
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I must say, I am fairly disappointed in the responses by the Objectivist community regarding SOPA. For one, I'd like anyone to point out which section in the bill constitutes a violation of due process; the bill makes clear that court orders will and must be issued, particularly persuant to existing (or ammended) US Code. It seems to me that way too many people have gotten on a bandwaggon without being properly informed, or by being heavily against the bill without even taking the time to read it or parts of it. This bill takes approximately a little more than an hour to read; it's time for the advocates to get busy actually reading it. Another thing that irks me is that there are many good ammendments to prior Code in the bill, particularly in Title II, yet the call is for the whole thing to be scrapped. For example, instead of relying on a transmission timeline of 180 days, a standard of 10 infringments, or a single infringment of heavy monitary worth, would be used.
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It's a good thing that Hurricane Irene was just a media blitz: no cancellation of the Giants/Jets game.
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T @falsestatements Where is #Gadhafi? Word is he's been spotted camping outside #BestBuy for one of those #HP #TouchPad. GL bro #webOS
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The way these candidates are responding to questions, I wouldn't be surprised if one of them says Fox News is a member of the liberal media.
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Nice, pre-season football starts tonight. I'll probably watch a good portion of it, then switch it to the Fox News/Washington Examiner GOP debate.
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Tiger Woods needs to quit focusing on winning at this point. He needs to go back and train hard to work on his game and get focus. I'm not ready to write him off just yet.
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A tip for you foursquare users: "IT'S FOURSQUARE WEEKEND @perryellis retail stores 08/13-14. Show UR badge & get a Perry Ellis Key Chain+ 25% off! (1st 25 users per venue)" https://foursquare.com/perryellis
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Last Saturday, Rick Perry, most likely a candidate for the presidency of the United States, hosted a national prayer event in Houston, Texas. Prayer for resolution to national issues, like debt and budget issues, was the main theme. The problem? Government policy and its effects are man made and caused by bad decisions; the only way to solve such policy issues is with man made solutions.
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When are people going to stop flying the yellow ribbons and actually step up for our soldiers? Our military force isn't a police force.
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According to SocialGuide, the premiere for Jersey Shore broke social media records. I didn't watch it but I feel kind of left out, so I might as well be a late participant. From looking at various cast pictures in USA Today and Yahoo, I've got some important advice to the Jersey Shore ladies: cut back on the carbs.
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This is a big week for beer: Aug 4th, IPA Day; 5th, International Beer Day; 7th, National Beer Day. Get your Untappd and foursquare ready. Hashtags will be #IPAday and #IntlBeerDay. Make sure you go to the liquor store and get some decent beer; save the American 'water' for national beer day..
