Alessa36

My apologies to all the intelligent men on this site. I guess I thought most men's standards were low. I didn't give enough of you credit.

Oh male strippers. I went once and the best part was watching this dancer in a g-string hump my friends head while she screamed...hahahha it was really funny. I'd rather just go to a Rangers hockey game. This way I can enjoy what I'm watching and have fun right along side the men.

What do those Clubs use to target me and make it appealing to me? Do the women dancing read from books perhaps...(smile) There is a radio station here in new york that does a promotion called WOW aka whip it out wednesday. The object is for women to flash their breasts at males when driving in traffic to make the "hump day" and traffic jams more tolerable. Again, why would I do this? What do I get out of it?

I always say, "If you excite my mind, you'll excite my body". I think someone like Mike Piazza from baseball is appealing, sexy (looking) and excites me physically, however, If I met him and he said something dumb and I found him to be intellectually unapealling, I wouldn't be able to or want to have sex with him. I cannot seperate physical and mental. I think some people, usually men can just view a woman as sexy looking and appealing and have sex with her, like a one night stand, regardless of whether her thoughts and mind are appealing.

I think the reason women (non dancers) don't like strip clubs is that there's nothing in it for us.

This is true. I had a stress test once which is taken on a treadmill by a cardiologist. They hook you up to probes and have you run/walk depending upon your ability to the point of breathlessness and monitor your heartrate at various intervals to the peak. Then you stop, dead cold, lay down and they monitor your heartbeat recovery at different intervals. How fast your heart recovers is a definite measure of fitness. There is a formula, if you're interested, which helps identify and measure your heart rate levels during activity. You will know what percentage of exertion, or zone, your body is working. My resting HR is 51bpm. My max HR is 188bpm. Zone 5 (90%) for me is 173-183 Zone1(50%) is 133-143 Last sunday after a 10 mile run my HR recovery from 168bpm after 1 minute rest was 108. 60bpm recovery. After 2 minutes it was 88. That recovery number is a good way to measure fitness.

You're saying that if my twin did 30 minutes a week of HIT, just that, they would be in better shape then me right now? How would you measure that? What test would you give us both?

hee hee Isn't squating 400 lbs bad for your knees. It would have to be an unbiased test, which might be hard to come up with, based on Heart rate recovery maybe and muscle to fat ratio, etc.

I understand and objectively agree with pretty much everything you said. What criteria are you using to determine that you are in the best shape of your life? And your best shape may or may not be in better shape then mine or your friends when put to the test, like a ball game. Too bad you gave up ice hockey. Its such a great sport. My observation has been that I will still be standing when put to the test with the avergae weightlifter in my town

Oh, I don't know about that. I could put you through a Heavy Duty workout that was more intense. I'd have to have all the weights set up ahead of time and nobody using the machines so you had no rest in between exercises, but believe me I'd have you on the floor at the end. Your body doesn't care if you're doing weights or "cardio;" if your heart's going it's going to wear you out AH HA so it all comes out...yeah of course if you weight train at heavy intensity non stop you get a good workout...duh.....same as if you ran 30 minutes or equivalent. I totally agree with you that the workout you describe above is beneficial. When was the last time you were at the gym when noboby was using the machines and you could have the numbers set up exactly? Most lifters in real life, not theory, rest in between sets and let other people work in and have to wait. You're saying Joe weightlifter is in better shape then me? What criteria are you using to determine the answer to this test? How can you prove it? I don't disagree that taking an unfit person and having them weight train 3x a week will impove their fitness, especially if diet is involved. If someones goals are just to maintain a minimal amount of fitness level and hates exercising then its probably a good idea. I don't agree that the same person is more fit and healthier then me. That person would not be able to compete in an olympic distance triathlon. I can. I can also go to the gym and pump iron at high intensity for 30 min. I have and do read a lot on this topic. .

This made me laugh. ( ever see a weight lifter try to run....they probably do hurt themselves ) I don't get injured. I didn't lose muscle. I like playing sports, so being aerobically fit enables me to do that and be competitive. I am strong, fit , healthy and in great shape. I'll wear my HR monitor next week when I weight train and see. I agree that eating less will help you lose weight. Weight lifting will help strenghten your muscles but I'm skeptical of the fitness level you achieve.

I bike at times 40-60 miles and my legs are strong and conditioned. I bike or run up hills which I can only do for short periods of time is that what you mean by intense training? The difference I have always found to be true is that I can go to the gym the and pump iron, however someone who just lifts weight will not be able to go bike 40-60 miles. As your muscles become stronger from sports like cycling and running, you're able to improve your conditioning. By cardio, I mean pertaining to the heart. If I use your rational that strength training is better for your muscles, then the way to strengthen your heart muscle is to increase its size and ability to perform. Cardio training increases the amount of oxygen your heart muscle receives forcing it to builds new vessels which increase the hearts size. When you say HIT do you mean pumping different body parts continually without rest in between sets, or just 3-6 reps of heavy weight without resting? (this would turn this weight session into 30 minute continuous aerobics ) Do you mean 30 minutes a day, or week? What will happen to your body when its in a physical situation beyond 30 minutes training you do like hiking down and up the Grand Canyon? Diet must play an important role in your fat loss. btw I weight train 2x a wk heavy, but not killer weights. I am curious what criteria you want to use to test this out. Are you going to use heart rate, blood pressure, fat to muscle ratio, how often you get sick, sit ups, etc. Are you saying that the most fit people at the Olympics are the body builders? Convince me that a speed skater is only in good condition but not strong.

This interesting discussion is an ongoing debate between the Aerobic vs Weight Training school of thought. My 12 years of being an active athlete ie; runner, triathlete, gym member, weight trainer, etc. has taught me that each individual person's goals and fitness level are different. To answer your questions... -How well does it burn calories;aid in weight loss? -Does it reduce the risk of heart disease? -Does it contribute to better psychological well-being? Your body needs a certain amount of energy (Kcal) a day to maintain its functions. Based on a persons weight and fitness level aerobic workouts burn calories. This creates a deficit and will result in weight loss provided you change nothing in your diet. You can also reduce caloric intake to create weight loss. Lifting weights build stronger muscles which continue to burn calories over time however it doesn't create the immediate caloric results. Link to Kcal burned during exercise...see for yourself. http://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist3.htm Aerobic exercise makes the heart beat faster and pump more oxygen through the body. Over time your heart will create new blood vesssels to support this increase. Your body will remove the bi products and carbon dioxide through your lungs and kidneys (sweat) making you healthier. If you also remove foods like bacon and trans fatty foods, etc. you will reduce your risk of heart disease, however no one thing alone is the key to reducing heart disease. If you run a 5k everyday and eat junk food you might just cancel things out. Although if you create a caloric deficit you would still lose weight, you would have a lower weight but maybe high cholesterol(fat like waxy substance) You might be thin, but have a high risk of heart disease. Whether or not someone feels better psychologically is a hard question to answer. I feel better when i exercise regularly. Science says that endorphines are released and our bodies natural "acetaminophen" is ignited as a result of exercise. (so is being chased by a pitbull but you wouldn't want that to happen for 30 mins 3x a week.) We can reduce the stress in our muscles and our minds which I think helps us feel good. I enjoy running on the beach. It strengthens my heart, legs, abs and refreshes my mind and creativity. If somone hates being at the beach and can only think about the sand in their toes and the annoying seagulls then its not something they might continue to do. You may need to figure out how much time you're willing to spend and find a sport activity you like and will continue to do over time. Weightlifting is a good way to create stronger muscles which burn calories better , however training the heart muscle is better with cardio workouts.