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    RationalBiker reacted to Dante in A question about violence and the initiation of force.   
    This is a ridiculous reading of the position you're attempting to argue against that doesn't belong in an honest debate.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Greebo in A question about violence and the initiation of force.   
    The guy with the gun to your head is giving you the choice of do what he says or stop being able to choose, ever again.

    Do you consider those to be valid choices?
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    RationalBiker reacted to rasconia in A question about violence and the initiation of force.   
    Does the mugger want you to present an argument? No! He wants you to give him the money. If you start presenting an argument, you are acting against his desires. If you feel that you are "compelled" to act a certain way, it is due to your own desire for self-preservation; not because the mugger is controlling your mind or your decisions.



    Once again: The mugger doesn't have magical mind control powers. He can't force you to think a certain way. The Jedi Mind Trick doesn't actually exist in the real world.


    On the contrary, threats (whether they are violent or non-violent) are merely a means of persuasion. For that matter, what basis do you have for saying that physical threats are immoral if non-violent persuasion isn't immoral? If violent threats are a form of mind control, then it implies that persuasion is also a kind of mind control.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Zoid in Google Plus   
    There is a right to privacy in the sense that individuals have the right to control access to their property and the government must have probable cause before searching an individual's property. But there is no "right to not have your street photographed." Google Street View initiates force against no one.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Steve D'Ippolito in Self-interest versus rights   
    You know, Mustang... It's been said a dozen times by now.

    Go read Ayn Rand.

    I'll add:

    You are either a deliberate troll or an unintentional one.
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    RationalBiker reacted to James Bond in wonder if you'd consider me an objectivist   
    Ok, I agree. Calling people out morally for not dealing with their bullshit is unwarranted.



    I'm going to go to bed now but I hope I get lots of great replies for when I wake up.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Dante in Refutation of existence of an all powerful being.   
    For starters, your packaging of non-volitional and reactionary together, as well as volitional and non-reactionary. Yes, it is true that all volitional action is self-caused in a sense (non-reactionary). However, your claim is much stronger; namely, that all non-reactionary action is volitional action, and I see no support for this claim. In fact, in a universe where spontaneous actions seems to be an inherent capacity of the fabric of the universe, I see only evidence to the contrary.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Mnrchst in Why should there be patents and copyrights?   
    Even if you have a bunch of "unwanted crap", you can still throw it into an incinerator and produce electricity, which might help you address an existential threat.

    Would you care to actually read my posts?
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    RationalBiker reacted to Greebo in Why should there be patents and copyrights?   
    Yeah?

    Got any video game consoles? I'll take those, thanks. They're not property, after all - they don't relate to your survival.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Greebo in Why should there be patents and copyrights?   
    No, actually, you can't, because that would pollute the air which would harm others and you don't have the right to do that.

    And no, I'm not really taking you seriously anymore because of the reasons stated previously. You WANT the conclusion to be X, and you'll say whatever it takes to get X to come out the end.
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    RationalBiker got a reaction from Grames in Self-interest versus rights   
    Your question is loaded; it presumes that the "acts against others" is in one's rational self interest.


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    RationalBiker got a reaction from Dante in Self-interest versus rights   
    Your question is loaded; it presumes that the "acts against others" is in one's rational self interest.


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    RationalBiker reacted to Dante in Objectivism and homosexuality dont mix   
    Except that each person's highest value is his or her own life. Attempting to claim that the highest value is some abstract "life" and therefore homosexuality, because it does not result in children, 'does not value life' is rationalistic, and a confusion of what is meant by valuing life for the Objectivist. Objectivism as an ethical code is always a guide for the individual valuer, who should always be focusing on his particular life. Valuing one's own life and therefore being true to oneself could certainly result for some people in a homosexual lifestyle, and everyone engaging in homosexuality for these reasons is operating on the premise of life: their own individual life, not some nebulous, abstract, 'furtherance of the species' conception of life, which by design refers to no life in particular.
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    RationalBiker reacted to FeatherFall in Why should there be patents and copyrights?   
    Mnrchst, I've already included in my argument a reason for why people are not property. Knowledge is contextual. "Property" is a concept that is meaningless without the concept "rights". Rights, if given to one person, have to be given to all people. So, if a person is property, nobody has rights. Any definition given of property must be interpreted with that in mind. Anyway, your history suggests that we'll be back to this in another four or five posts, so I'm going to spend my time reading A Dance With Dragons from now on.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Greebo in Refutation of existence of an all powerful being.   
    Ok so what is the spontaneous appearance of a volitional force which can act upon massless, eternal energy a reaction to?
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    RationalBiker reacted to Greebo in Why should there be patents and copyrights?   
    Okay, we're done, troll.
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    RationalBiker reacted to The Wrath in Casey Anthony Trial Verdict   
    There are virtually no criminal cases that are completely beyond doubt. If all else fails, someone can always claim an elaborate conspiracy by an evil corporation to frame the defendant. If "beyond any possible doubt" is the standard, convictions would be few and far between. The risk of incarcerating the occasional innocent man, due to some freak circumstances that make him look extremely guilty, is the price of living in a society of law.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Plasmatic in Refutation of existence of an all powerful being.   
    Ninth doctor:



    Sure do, but I don't come here to discuss this special science. If your interested we can discuss it at another forum on the topic.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Plasmatic in Refutation of existence of an all powerful being.   
    Ninth Doctor I reject the entire edifice of BB cosmology and all it's high priest on both philosophical and special scientific grounds. I object completely to the use of such special science theories in a philosophical discussion.
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    RationalBiker got a reaction from softwareNerd in Argument against the abolition of slavery   
    Planet of the Apes?
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    RationalBiker reacted to Dante in Why should there be patents and copyrights?   
    Can't we all just acknowledge that in any coherent system of equal individual rights, people cannot be owned by other people, and then move on from the bearing children example?
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    RationalBiker got a reaction from dream_weaver in Refutation of existence of an all powerful being.   
    I'm not concerned with changing your beliefs. You haven't offered any evidence yet that is worth my consideration.



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    RationalBiker reacted to Eiuol in Why should there be patents and copyrights?   
    I have to say, 1-2 sentence responses to quote is very unproductive. This isn't a chatroom, it's a forum. Writing paragraph(s) would make discussion a lot more organized, easier to follow, and easier to read. Some kind of advocacy of organized and consolidated posting would be a great idea here.

    Also, there was next to no thought out response to Mark's post all the way on page one mentioning the general idea of what property is. You said you don't understand how it couldn't apply to children. That's a ridiculous idea, since people don't MAKE kids, they are only involved in one step of the whole automatic biological process. It's not like you grab parts and BUILD a kid. The process of creation we're discussing here is the volitionally-directed process of creation that requires mental labor. So until you address those fundamental ideas more concisely, this discussion gets absolutely no where.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Dante in Refutation of existence of an all powerful being.   
    If you're suggesting that the theistic side of the debate does not suffer from this problem, then you don't understand what they are arguing. Both sides in this discussion are positing that something "has always been there." The two sides simply disagree over what that something is; for us, it is the universe pretty much as it is now, while for the theists it is a conscious being, God, who initiated the universe as we know it. The reason for this is simple; if you're ultimately 'not really satisfied' with something always having been here, then your only alternative is truly causeless creation at some point in the past; something from (literally) nothing. Neither Jacob nor we Objectivists are willing to make that kind of claim. Are you?



    You cannot make that claim on the basis of the evidence. All that we can say at this point is that almost 14 billion years ago, the universe as we know it was a singularity which then rapidly expanded. We have absolutely no evidence at this point to suggest what shape the universe was in before that singularity, and certainly nothing on which to base the claim that it didn't exist before that point. A series of bangs and crunches stretching back forever (for example) is equally likely.



    You seem to be suggesting that there might be something else which is equipped to address questions when we have absolutely no evidence to go on. Some kind of shortcut to knowledge when we don't have any hard facts. This is simply not the case. Any questions that cannot be addressed using 'observable reality' simply cannot be addressed. There is no shortcut to knowledge through faith or feelings or guessing or anything else.
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    RationalBiker reacted to Eiuol in Refutation of existence of an all powerful being.   
    As opposed to unobservable reality? There is no way whatsoever to speculate about unobservable reality, and anything in "unobservable reality" necessarily has no affect on anything in observable reality. If anything in "unobservable reality" had an affect on observable reality, it wouldn't be part of "unobservable reality".
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