Pat616

You were right Dorian, I should have beat the game before I passed judgement on it. I think I am going to play the end over again just for the story line.

Well I'll be darned, thats awesome! Thanks alot for the info Dorian and happy gaming.

Cool thats all I needed to know, I'll keep playing it then, thanks for the info

Well I'll be darned, I about lost hope for this game but I guess I'll keep playing to see if it gets any better. Spoiler Alert I just completed the part where the artist has you hunt down and kill 4 people, take pictures of their corpses and then add them to his "masterpiece." I am hoping this is the all type low point of the game because i didn't exactly feel uplifted helping this crazy make his macabre art. Thank you for your game sugguestions, I agree with your first 3 choices, those were the first 3 games I got for the 360. I havent tried Dead Rising yet, I'll have to give it a shot. Thanks

Did anyone say Star Wars? If not I'm going to go ahead and throw that one out there, also We Were Soldiers Indiana Jones (exceot the temple of doom) The Untouchables the rest of my favorites have been said

I was actually thinking of Roarke and his detonation of the his buildings but I think all those examples apply equally. Im done with this game, its getting more and more disgusting as you go on, I can't keep playing it without feeling dirty, on a sidenote anyone know of any good first person shooters for the 360? Thanks

I don't think so. I really hope your right Mammon, but at the part I am at Andrew Ryan talks about how he once owned a forest and the government tried to sieze it from him so he burnt it to the ground. He then uses this rational at his explanation for attempting to kill everyone on Rapture. Also I would find a certain grim satisfaction in fighting a bunch of tax collecters, as long as they initiated the violence of course.

Does anyone think Fred Thompson would be a good canidate. I don't know what his chances would be, and I know that he has not even declared yet, but what I have read and heard from him seems to be pretty good. He is pro-gun, and he is pro giving more power to the states and taking away power from the federal government, which is always a good thing. Any thoughts?

The purpose of punishment is to deal justice. If a person commits murder, it is just and right that they be executed. Torture and medical experiments would not be dealing justice to the criminal.

Hi, I am new to the forums and look forward with discussing various topics with you guys/gals. I think Bioshock has amazing graphics, creative and unique gameplay, and an entertaining story line. But I guess what it really comes down to is this Andrew Ryan guy is suppose to be some what based on Ayn Rand, and from as far as I can tell, Andrew Ryan is a crazy sociopath. So I think from a philosophical standpoint, that would be a knock on objectivism. Furthermore I don't think a Utopia of objectivist intellectuals would be turn asunder by some stem cells. Regardless the game is entertaining and I am eager to see if my theory that this is actually quite anti objectivist is correct. Happy gaming, Pat