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LordDan

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  1. megan do yo know what does the sign ? means.... ????? and jake :pirate: maybe you'r open minded...do you know what is marketing? to better satisfy the needs of the consumer, to create new producs...to anticipate future needs...and for that, science is determinand. For example, nobody ws thinkin` 50 years ago that sony can sell 3 inches cd's, or apple 16 gb iphone...anyway, you`r pathetic..

  2. Just stating that children die does not solve the problem. There is a long history of thinkers who have worked to solve problems like this and it is a good idea to learn from the mistakes of the past, least you repeat the same errors. This means reading history and philosophy.

    Just to give you a heads up, Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism would solve the problem of starvation in the world, because when men are free they prosper and when they are not free they fall into poverty and death. The problem is people (usually left wing intellectuals) are vilifying freedom, and thus the result is children and others are dying. So, it’s a choice, and a very bad one at that. These are things that you can learn from history.

    To push the point further, so long as you leave men free, I have no problem with you experimenting with new systems, but as soon as you encroach upon the rights of man your (or their) idea becomes a non-starter.

    Aham, maybe you'r right.. but no one is free, belive me...None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.(Goethe)

    We are not free, only some actions that we do make us feel so..some people can think free but not all, the most are manipulated.. Nothing is free, we pay for all thinks..with money, time,labour,etc... but I don't want to debate with you, I started this topic cause I want to find some different mentalities of the people..to meditate a bit of other things, not only money money money...sure that money is important, but this shouldn't enslave us

  3. It is, but it's their own damn collective fault. The solution is to overthrow dictatorships like Mugabe's, eliminate the residue of socialism in Tanzania, and encourage free enterprise and industrialization in these blighted spots. Beyond that, people just have to learn on their own to give up on primitivism and to embrace the expansion of capitalism. Money is essential to that expansion.

    You are totally right..but the damn children don't choose the dictatorships,system,country,family... The problem is david, that the poverty increased in the last 50 years, after they "were helped"... but the poverty there it's not my problem, I hope that the time will solve that.i'll go now,buy some cigarettes..damn

  4. The dollar ($) sign is an American and Capitalist symbol (it's actually the U and S written in the same space, from US). Saying that someone in Zambia lives on 10 dollars, especially after advocating for the abolition of money, is absolutely meaningless.

    They are living within their means, as they always have, they have nothing to do with dollars or that symbol you took the liberty to steal from what you consider your ideological enemy.

    Saying that we should sacrifice what makes our lives meaningful (technology, production, money, prosperity), because of an argument you came up with by borrowing exactly what you are asking us to give up, is repulsive. In fact I'm getting ready to have my wonderfully lavish meal that I produced for myself now, so I'll leave you before my appetite leaves me.

    Ok man, I just wanted to see people opinion for an extreme change. you probably don't know about this "project" ..I don't belive in it, it's to strange for me, I put all my hope in the free market economy because I'll work in it 40-50 years from now on :thumbsup: so don't blame me,the project is not my idea, I don't work for them(it's kinda interesting but no) the zeitgeist documentary opened a bit my f*c*in mind.. Enjoy your meal, and I tell you sincere..every day more than 16000 children die from hunger,1 per 5 sec..

  5. Yes and history has shown us just how great everything tuns out when people decide they are going to "redesign" culture. Let's hear it for Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler and all the rest!

    Here is another common thread with the "leaders" I mentioned above, the belief in the holistic, generic, faceless horde called "society". Who's society exactly? Who is society? Who in society has the right to tell anyone how it should be run, how it should be organized, how it should be governed?

    Who does the production of all this stuff you want to give for free? What happens to them when you make their way of life/living literally worthless? When you make the internet free are you going to accept the fact that you have just made millions of people unemployed too?

    Collectivist tyranny and socialist claptrap all dressed up in pseudo science fiction.

    I hate to use a monetary euphemism but, I'm not buying your sales pitch.

    I don't say that the project will happen :thumbsup: but it's something else...The Venus Project=Utopia, ideal community... you say that free internet makes millions unemployed :) the technology made billions unemployed.. in industry,agriculture and all the work sectors :) not this is important... in the future 70% jobs will disappear and other will rise..but the rapid changes in the life make poverty..not all the poeple can hip it up ( At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day ) this is very sad..

  6. I don''t know about you guys, but I don't want to have to haul chickens to the market again just to get some grain. A generalized unit of trade, say currency, works much better for that purpose..

    Yes..money is an universal trade object...world wide recognized..but some scientists try to make a better worldI(they say)..Look here: The Venus Project presents a bold, new direction for humanity that entails nothing less than the total redesign of our culture. There are many people today who are concerned with the serious problems that face our modern society: unemployment, violent crime, replacement of humans by technology, over-population and a decline in the Earth's ecosystems. As you will see, The Venus Project is dedicated to confronting all of these problems by actively engaging in the research, development, and application of workable solutions. Through the use of innovative approaches to social awareness, educational incentives, and the consistent application of the best that science and technology can offer directly to the social system, The Venus Project offers a comprehensive plan for social reclamation in which human beings, technology, and nature will be able to coexist in a long-term, sustainable state of dynamic equilibrium. ( source www.thevenusproject.com )

    They say the earth has enough resources for all and that the technologie is so advanced..we can produce as much as we want..(for example energy,food,etc)... Yes I think that some things can be for free.. for example food,electricity, the internet..and others..We pay for the internet now, but I'm sure that this will disappear in the future.

    Anyway..today 97% of money in US is scriptural money..we can't see it .. and money doesn't exist,it's only an invention by the federal reserve to resolve the inflation,crizes, and to assure "a better world". Today...the us and the whole world try to resolve the depresion with invented money... billions of $ are given to the biggest companies in America for example..but the colaps of smaller entities is not far.. so, the fed controls everything: the money,the debt ,the whole system..but we can't do nothing..we are only their slaves :thumbsup:

  7. Hmm...the project, yes the documentary zeitgeist..the both shocked me...zeitgeist is the best documentary i've seen..and I watched it 2 days ago til 3 o'clock in the night...but I don't think that the venus project is possible with the actual human art of thinking...My opinion is that the project is like the communism without money, the difference is that the venus project is based on resources. But the resources in our planet are rare...i'm studying economy at the university and that is what i'm being teached. Resources < Needs of people... so we cannot provide the well being for 8 billion people with the resources that we have. I have watched the documentary and I have seen that there is enough natural energy and that the people don't need the fosils..but this solar,eolian etc that should be made...without investments it's impossible. And I also think that this system based only on resources, without money...it's like an utopia...People need to achive goals, to have a target in their lifes..they cannot leave without something that make them work hard,develope their souls ..their personality. Let's suppose that the robots make for us(humans) 90% of the work..but what will people do? who will compose music, who will direct movies, who will wright a good roman...nobody..Only 5% of the people do their job because they really like that. What will happen with the schools,universities..good teachers ? In 2-3 generations all will be lost..I have seen photos with the houses,transportaton and other things involved in this project...but I think they should test a bunch of people..put them inside,with their children and ensure them all their needs ..and if they resist more than 50-60 years..the project is succesfull, but I think that people that leave in such conditions will have no progress, they'll be like vegetables..

    I don't want to make them that belive in the project to influence in a wrong way...what if you are such one..watch walle movie..a great animation,I think it;s the best ever..and you'll see how people will look after 100-200 years of VENUS PROJECT

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