JamesShrugged

I would agree with this if you followed up with some explaination of how the points I made didnt apply in the case of Goldmans Sachs, or if Binswanger didnt personally name Lloyd Blankfein as deserving as the same praise as that which Mother Teresa currently recieves.

"just another in the "anarcho-communist occupy-Wall St" genre." This is way off base. Where in my article do I make an appeal to anarchism? -- I don't. How is my argument dependant on anarchism or communism for that matter? -- It isn't.

Its kind of silly to begrudge someone for an article that they didn't write. If I was interested in that theme at the time, I might have written it. Since you seem to have an interest in it, perhaps it would be a good topic for you to write about? Still, I think its kind of silly to say "He didnt write about x, in that article so, that somehow makes the article untrue."

"I have not read the linked article," -- But thats not going to stop me from commenting on what I think it might say!

http://dailyanarchist.com/2013/11/13/in-praise-of-looters-harry-binswangers-defense-of-goldman-sachs/ Harry Binswanger’s 2011 praise of Goldman Sachs at Forbes.com ignores the context that the US does not have a free market economy. The US is a mixed economy, whose financial sector is monopolized by banking cartels. Counter to Binswanger’s argument that, “since profit is the market value of the product minus the market value of factors used, profit represents the value created,” the corporate profits of Goldman Sachs are the result of lobbying, government insider favors, the infamous 2008 bailout of AIG. and their membership in the central bank’s monetary monopoly. This misdirection is the primary characteristic of what Roderick Long called “right-conflationism.” --Read More--

I wasn't making an argument, it was just an observation. In the original article I link to an actual argument against IP rights. Obviously, you believe in IP, and I don't, so we are going to have a hard time not talking past each other. I've always had good interactions with you, SoftwareNerd, so I would prefer to agree to disagree than battle this one out.(also, I recently spent a lot of time and energy arguing about IP on reddit and am a bit drain on the topic, TBH)

I make my argument here. Throwing a temper tantrum? Having a deliberate plan to undermine the state by denying it resources is not a temper tantrum. As I show here, agorism is exactly what "The Strike" in Atlas Shrugged was: Alternate currency: “That’s the money we use here,” he said. “It’s minted by Midas Mulligan… We don’t accept any other currency in this valley.” Autarky: Most of the strikers, formerly leading high class lifestyles as industrial CEO’s, became farmers. Energy independence achieved through decentralized use of Galt’s Motor. Midas Mulligan: “The valley is almost self-supporting.” Black markets: As opposed to state markets, the strikers go out of their way to avoid material support of the state. Midas Mulligan: “And as to the goods that we can’t yet produce, I purchase them from the outside through a pipe line of my own. It’s a special agent, a man who does not let my money reach the looters.” Disregard of illegitimate law: Wherever the state is blind and relies on voluntary adherence to its demands, the strikers are oblivious to it. In their secret Galt within the geographical boundaries of Colorado and the United States, nobody volunteers taxes or submission to regulatory bodies. The heroes of Atlas Shrugged also employed direct action against the state and its allies. Examples include: Ellis Wyatt’s destruction of state-appropriated “Wyatt Oil” fields. Francisco D’Anconia’s sabotage of D’Anconia Copper and manipulation of the stock market to intentionally destroy the profits through political graft of American crony capitalists as well as his destruction of D’Anconia Copper on the day it was nationalized. Ragnor Danneskjold’s destruction of state-owned cargo vessels and the factory of crony capitalist Orren Boyle of Associated Steel. Midas Mulligan’s theft of state property and redistribution of funds to the taxpayers. John Galt’s takeover of public broadcasting for dissemination of an anti-statist message. The anarchists’ assault on the government facility, the “State Science Institute,” involving the execution of a government employee, for the purpose of liberating John Galt who was being held as a political prisoner. Thats very uninformed. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/10/28/black_market_global_economy?wp_login_redirect=0 This entire article is very enlightening, I would definitely suggest reading it. Hey Louie, I havent heard from you in a while, how have you been? I'm sure you know that I am one of the most active members of /r/objectivism, and an active proponent for anarchism there. So I guess you have me to blame for "ruining" it. I like to think of it as more of a heterodox alternative to objectivist forums like this and "the forum for ayn rand fans" which tend to be more orthodox. Hit me up on Skype and I'll fill you in on what I've been up to lately. Even the owner of this forum is anti-IP. Its not an uncommon position among Objectivists.

Produce as little as possible in the state run economy as a means of depriving the state of resource it uses to violate individual rights, yes. Produce as much as possible in the infomal economy (the free market) to promote voluntary trade between individual. Peaceful duplication (called piracy by the regime and its allies) benefits artists and software companies. http://disinfo.com/2011/12/swiss-government-study-online-piracy-benefits-artists/ http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/05/18/research-paper-finds-music-piracy-benefits-album-sales/ http://www.techpowerup.com/45295/independent-artists-benefit-from-piracy.html http://phys.org/news124984600.html "Objectivism" is a proper noun denoting the philsophy of Ayn Rand. "AnarchObjectivism" is also a proper noun, denoting the logical integration of the philosophy's of Ayn Rand, Murray Rothbard, George H. Smith, David Friedman, Bob Murphy, The Tannehills, and of course, myself. Genus: Objectivism. Differentia: Anarchism Catholicism and Protestantism are often very different, but despite all those differences they are both still branches of the Christian religion AnarchObjectivism, whether you like it or not is a branch of Randian thought, that includes agreement with BTW, "Us" has an awfully collectivist connotation in the context of your sentence. Whom do you propose to speak for? Orthodox Objectivists? This boards members? I understand that this boards members tend to be orthodox, I know there are several heterodox members as well. The forum administration? I know that David Veksler is a fan of Murray Rothbard and is the webmaster for the Ludwig von Mises Institute, which promotes anarcho-capitalism.

http://anarchobjectivist.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/how-to-become-an-agorist-and-fight-the-state-in-7-easy-steps/

http://anarchobjectivist.wordpress.com/2013/09/07/an-anarchobjectivists-guide-to-atlas-shrugged/ Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand is the story of a group of anarcho-capitalists, led by inventor John Galt, who struggle against and eventually destroy the state and its allies in business.