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  1. Oh, thank you each for your input and the excellent links. I had forgotten about this thread, because the same classmate and I are struggling to gain real comprehension in a class where the teacher's pedagogy is based on the idea that showing people things they don't know about is a good way to stimulate learning, without connecting the new ideas in any meaningful way. With all that stimulus going on (read: overload), I forgot about the economics. The Higgs paper is a very interesting idea. I also don't think my classmate is likely to be able to understand any of these arguments, but it is
  2. It could also be just something automatic, like driving a car while having a conversation. Ah, this is the idea I was looking for. Integrations can be performed subconsciously. Peikoff is appropriately careful in his word choices here. The conscious mind is able to know, but does not automatically know--it can require enormous effort to figure out even what they are, much less whether they are correct or not. And back to the original discussion, wouldn't you say that Holmes could act virtuously subconsciously?
  3. This is a useful identification, thank you. I disagree with this statement and started another thread to discuss it. Can people act unconsciously?
  4. http://forum.ObjectivismOnline.com/index.php?showtopic=19738&view=findpost&p=255237 I would like to talk about this idea some more. I think it is possible to act unconsciously without being "knocked out." We have to define some terms, though, because "knocked out" is just a synonym for "unconscious." There is the medical state of being unconscious, there is the physical state of sleep, and there are varying levels of attention which can be brought to bear on decision-making. It is quite possible to act automatically without attention, and that does constitute a common use of th
  5. Drug addiction being what it is, I have my doubts, and so evidently did Watson, who said in "The Adventure of the Missing Three-Quarter" that Holmes' habit was "not dead but merely sleeping." Holmes also was given to depression and moodiness. However, I didn't mean to place particular attention on his flaws, except to say that his rationality was not complete. It is a pleasure to watch stories with this character in them, because, unlike so much of the drivel we are bombarded with, he routinely rejects irrational explanations and searches reality for information that can help him use reaso
  6. Welcome - I still feel like a newbie to Objectivism too. Welcome to the best ride of your life. I think that insofar as Holmes is holding strictly to reason, then yes, he is being objective. He certainly holds himself to reason far more than anyone around him, people who are ready to attribute crimes to spirits and innocent men. I loved how, in the recent movie, everyone else was convinced of magical forces at work, but his strict adherence to reality led him to the real cause. I wouldn't say that he is uniformly rational though. One of Holmes's flaws is that he lacks purpose unless he
  7. Today I had the something like the following conversation with a classmate, after listening to some teachers talk about a roomful of snazzy computers at our state-funded college that are about to be replaced by even snazzier ones: Me: It makes me sick to see them go buy us all new computers when we already have these. Classmate: But we need them. Me: They're coming from someone else's money. Classmate: It's in the budget. Me: They took it from taxpayers. Classmate: Well, I'm looking forward to them. Me: You can't spend your way out of debt. Classmate: It
  8. I wonder how those companies are doing now?
  9. Yes, but you have to define your terms. I'm an extrovert, but I also only have a few close friends at a given time. It is common to think of introversion as a negative trait, but there is a difference in the term when it's used as an evaluation versus as a description. It's not a measure of how good you are at conversation. The way I think of it in the Myers-Briggs is what you do to relieve stress: an extrovert will want to talk to people in order to think, and an introvert will want to think alone. Sometimes extroverts want to be alone, and sometimes introverts want to talk to someone else a
  10. Yes, I quite agree. It's no more than saying that even though a person is right-handed, they can still do things with their left hand as much as they feel the need to. As an ENFP, I've never considered myself to be the logical type, but using reason has become a very high value to me, and I find that the more I apply myself to it, the more I can do it, and my life improves accordingly. Now I look for people who can be expressive of emotions, but do so based on a well-reasoned philosophy. Yes, I find it useful for identification. One would think that knowing what one wants is a matter
  11. When I started what I thought was a new thread I didn't realize there had been so much discussion on this topic in the past. Several interesting trends show up: 1. INTJs and INTPs are well represented on this forum. 2. There are many questions about the validity and purpose of the test. 3. The subject keeps coming up. There are probably good reasons for those. I postulate: 1. Rand laid out her system of philosophy in a style that particularly appeals to NTs. Based on a survey of the personalities and the events of her life, she likely was INTJ. 2. The criticisms of the tests are vali
  12. *** Mod's note: Merged topic. - sN *** I have found this very useful to know when it comes to honing in on my value hierarchy. There is plenty of room for variation within it, but it continually amazes me how accurately it can predict a person's primary values. One of my favorite forms of entertainment is to figure out what type my friends are. And in fact, my type, ENFP, predicts that understanding my values is one of my primary values! There is a test here http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp. (I find that the way you interpret the questions can impact your score, though th
  13. Thanks! I wondered what happened to you. I guess we just crossed tracks. Appropriately, the Ayn Rand quote on the top of the page when I logged in today was that in a capitalist society, all relationships are voluntary. I think I am wrestling with two different issues here: one is about recasting the nature of the interactions I have in my relationships, and the other is about the secular/religious nature of the holiday. From what all of you have said, I think that the first is the most important, because the holiday itself is not that big a deal--I can do whatever I want. But the se
  14. It is always a little confusing when something is new, so thanks for the perspective. I guess gift-giving is more about celebrating a relationship. I can make it clear to them that I am not celebrating the religion, but our relationship. Your replies have helped me see that it is not in the same category as the day-to-day exchanges I have been evaluating.
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