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23 hours ago, tadmjones said:
heh didn't even read this yet but ..
https://www.barrons.com/news/getty-images-targets-ai-firm-for-copying-photos-01673961609
in the same vein,
https://www.businessinsider.com/app-detects-if-chatgpt-wrote-essay-ai-plagiarism-2023-1
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4 minutes ago, KateTheCapitalist said:
My critique of the whole thing is you cant own an idea or a product of your mind you cant homstead it and its not scarse so its not property and thus claiming so is irrational
So if I do not avail you to the idea or the product of my mind, you can neither homestead, nor claim it as your own? (ignoring both your typos and grammatical errors)
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https://courses.aynrand.org/works/patents-and-copyrights/
Would you care to walk us through the article and point out where you imagine she digresses from the process of reason, step by step?
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5 minutes ago, KateTheCapitalist said:
You are the one who brought it up I was arguing against IP and Patents bc of the ethical wrong
I was referring to the "throw in the towel" approach to the process of civilization muddying the waters of what Rand clearly put forth in her essay on patents and copyrights. I happen to agree with Rand on this point, to the extent I understand her. You have offered me nothing to persuade me to check my compass, or adjust my sails.
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2 minutes ago, KateTheCapitalist said:
no there is not if voting worked they would make it illegal im not going to let my rights be trampled on by the ignorant majority the only solution is dissociation and radical change
You are welcome to start a thread on that note/topic, if you so desire.
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7 minutes ago, KateTheCapitalist said:
The patent law in america is blatant violation of property rights you can not own an idea its imposible so to claim you do just violates others ability to make and trade as they see fit
@KateTheCapitalist , there is a process to change the laws of this country. As Washington was credited with having stated and Rand paraphrased, let us raise a standard to which the honest will
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@KateTheCapitalist, individuals complying with patent law in America make new inventions available under different premises than you are using to rationalize "freedom" in the broader context at play. The "non-scarce" idea has to pass into the public domain first presumably, not by your fiat.
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1 hour ago, tadmjones said:
heh didn't even read this yet but ..
https://www.barrons.com/news/getty-images-targets-ai-firm-for-copying-photos-01673961609
...and so it begins. Regulation of just what an AI can use in satisfying its programmers.
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9 hours ago, Boydstun said:
In Leonard Peikoff's 'History of Philosophy' he pointed out that Mathematics was the first science to be spun off of philosophy (in ancient Greece).
It's interesting how the unknown, or yet to be identified, has the Platonic, or mystical, element going for it even to this day.
Undertones of the spiral theory of knowledge seem to be underground currents that go undetected, at best.
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4 hours ago, Doug Morris said:
There are three kinds of "mathematical probability".
I like how two of the three kinds are connected to reality, while the "third" is not.
You examples conjured the following question in my mind. What side of the law are the bookies usually portrayed on, contrasted with, say, actuaries working for the insurance industry?
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On 1/14/2023 at 3:32 PM, Doug Morris said:
But if one inventor patents the very expensive route and another makes a less expensive route work, the second inventor should be able to patent the route they made work.
As a designer, good design practice was not to stipulated the process, unless it is necessary. This allowed fabricators to bid what they deemed necessary to meet the design specifications most economically.
Patents, per Rand required the material object being patented, but not the process by which it was produced. If a cheaper process can be found, perhaps there would be value in it to the inventor/holder of the patent.
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2 hours ago, Harrison Danneskjold said:
... Unless, of course, there actually IS a fire in the crowded theatre.
A lot of these issues have an implicit element of whether the speech is truthful or fraudulent.
Do I want Facebook, Twitter, etc., creating algorithms to filter what can be posted or redacted to my feed? Ultimately I want to be the one determining if said speech is truthful or not, not delegating it to a third party saying "trust us to filter it for you."
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20 hours ago, necrovore said:
If I recall, the Supreme Court Justice who originated the "fire in a crowded theater" example was using it to justify government censorship of the opinion that the military draft violated the 13th amendment (against slavery).
My point though is that a lot of the controversy about the alleged "conflict" between Facebook's freedom of speech and the freedom of speech of the people posting on Facebook can be resolved by looking at whose speech it is.
Your recollection took me to the wikipedia page supporting that "fire/theater" - "draft/slavery" connection.
The people posting on Facebook are demanding a microphone, if Facebook makes has an EULA in place implicitly agreed to up applying for an account and their 'censored' posts run counter to the EULA.
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Free speech does not mean that a microphone (or internet format, etc., ...) be provided. Endangering those around you by yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater has, thus far, provided a concrete example used as a counter-example.
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John C. Wright
- The Golden Age (Trilogy)
The Golden Oecumene (2002)
The Phoenix Exultant (2003)
The Golden Transcendence (2003)A blend of sci-fi, well seasoned with some history and mythology. The first read is likely to hold several surprises that enrich subsequent reads.
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1 hour ago, AlexL said:
So, again: what did you bring Kissinger's article up for? Why should I care which one is "more objective"?
I only brought up the Kissinger article because it was couched in such a way to be of interest to me. I did click on it after all. Then I chose to introduce it here.
It is just another example of what the MSM are positing as appetizers for the clientele they are cultivating for?
Conflicts overseas, rotating shortages on local supermarket shelves, increasing federal deficits, why should anyone care about any such things?
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29 minutes ago, AlexL said:
I don't understand what point you are trying to make.
Do you take the Spectator article by Henry Kissinger to be more objective than the Hillsdale article that was towing the same line as Russia Today put forth?
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On 11/8/2022 at 1:54 PM, AlexL said:
It is indeed a different source of input about the events in that region, but it is exactly of the same leaning as the ones with which whYNOT bombards this Objectivism Forum. Another source, but the same point of view...
In regard to the Hillsdale College article I linked to, your assessment was of the same leaning as the sources whYNOT has been providing.
A headline from the Drudge Report written by Henry Kissinger doesn't seem to bode much better an article: How to avoid another world war
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3 hours ago, AlexL said:
So: today's Russia is not a dictatorship because... its Constitution says so!
But then, neither Soviet Russia was a dictatorship in Rand's time, because its Constitution said:
"[USSR] is a society of true democracy, the political system of which ensures effective management of all public affairs, ever more active participation of the working people in running the state, and the combining of citizen's real rights and freedoms with their obligations and responsibility to society [from the Preamble]"
Article 1. [USSR is the] state of the whole people, expressing the will and interests of the workers, peasants, and intelligentsia, the working people of all the nations and nationalities of the country.
Article 2. All power in the USSR belongs to the people. The people exercise state power through Soviets of People's Deputies [Parliament], which constitute the political foundation of the USSR. All other state bodies are under the control of, and accountable to, the Soviets of People's Deputies.
Etc.
Dictatorship? No way! If it would be, the Constitution would read:
"USSR is a dictatorship [or autocracy] etc."
But it doesn't. So...😁
It's missing an element she admired of the United States, of enshrining individual rights in its governing documents.
In this sense, ths USSR fits the description used elsewhere of the law being used as a club until wrested from it by a larger gang, etc al.
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On 3/18/2021 at 1:23 PM, MisterSwig said:
I think it's a sailing thing, referring to the fact that the people on a boat all go wherever the boat goes.
https://www.offthemark.com/cartoon/relationships/love-romance/2001-12-20
Thought of this post when I saw this referenced elsewhere on the web
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On 12/8/2022 at 5:41 PM, William Scott Scherk said:
I've reconsidered this post. It demonstrates the mysterian character using the first and last posts of the time of creation.
I do this with some hesitation. I think there is merit in the rigor of using the process of objectivity in assessing information. I've introduced several articles that have provided analysis of the QAnon rise on a different thread, which was also needed to be split off of an ongoing conversation.
Use this as a means of perhaps exploring and coming to understand the rules of evidence (key word search) and how they apply to demonstrating and establishing a claim to guilt or innocence, and explore how Rand's contributions to objectivity can be used to shed light on both what is, and what is not objective.
The courts are generally interested in if a crime has been committed.
Objectivity is interested in in evidence as well, but not delimited to criminal activity.
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3 minutes 27 seconds.
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3 hours ago, William Scott Scherk said:
Copied to my "Oh well" file in case it gets yanked, as happened last time I commented in this thread
Could you potentially address a lingering question thus far unanswered?
...which of the Q mentions were made by Q-haters on this site, and if you want to delve deeper, have there been posts made by Ayn Rand haters here as well?
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