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I was watching Joe Rogan's marathon interview with Alex Jones the other day, and both of them described so-called "clockwork/machine elves" who appear to people in altered states of mind. Rogan says he sees them after taking DMT or ayahuasca. Jones claims to have experienced them too, and he has absolutely wild ideas regarding their interdimensional nature and purpose. For example, he thinks there are good ones and bad ones, but it's easier to contact the bad ones who want humans to kill each other. And so this explains why nations that get involved in such psychedelic, occultist practices end