Inspector Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I think we should get away from using the word "online" since the "WWW" thing is not such a novelty anymore. Oh, well if you wanted to actually change it and not just resolve the dilemma with the overlap site... It might be a bit long, but: RealityReasonRights.com Actually, that's only two more letters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'kian Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) themerketplace.com makes it sound too much like Ebay or something does it not? How about themarketplaceofideas.com? I don't really like long URLS, though. But then I bookmark everything and that's not much of a problem. Edited to add: on that vein, stockmarketofthespirit.com Edited October 4, 2007 by D'kian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus98876 Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 How about themarketplaceofideas.com? I don't really like long URLS, though. But then I bookmark everything and that's not much of a problem. Edited to add: on that vein, stockmarketofthespirit.com Hmm the first one is a bit as you say. I like that second one though, very catchy I think, and is available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendallJ Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 (edited) I will keep both names active for a few years, so it should not have a big impact.I think we should get away from using the word "online" since the "WWW" thing is not such a novelty anymore. I'm not sure Google prioritizes web search just by name, but by how networked the page it. I would seriously condsider NOT changing the name. Your Google equity is more important than a simple confusion with someone typing in the .com vs .net domain name. When I search Objectivsim right now, OO.net comes up on teh first page and OO.com is nowhere to be found. Why evacuate the high ground? Also, when I search Objectivism Online .net comes up #1, .com is nowhere to be found. Edited October 5, 2007 by KendallJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 I would seriously condsider NOT changing the name. Seconded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas M. Miovas Jr. Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I am thinking of renaming ObjectivismOnline. While .com is kind of the default domain indicator that people think of when they think of a website, I don't think you ought to change the name of objectivismonline.net merely because it might be confused with objectivismonline.com. There are people out there who would want you to change the domain name because having Objectivism in the URL implies that one is consistent with the philosophy of Objectivism, and they don't think oo.net does that sufficiently enough to warrant having Objectivism in the URL. So, I think you need to think about this more than just in terms of .com or .net, but rather in terms of what you want your domain name to indicate about your website. A lot of people new to Objectivism show up on oo.net looking for answers, in part because Objectivism is part of the URL. So I think part of your thinking about a name change should include the question of whether or not you want to run a website that draws people in because of the name Objectivism -- and then try to remain consistent enough with that name to warrant having Objectivism in the URL. Regarding changing the name to a URL that has Ayn Rand in it, I would advise against that on legal grounds, since Ayn Rand is a registered trademark (of the Estate of Ayn Rand?), and if they wanted to they could probably shut you down. That's one reason I did not seek a URL with Ayn Rand in it for my own website. And since I wanted to present my own ideas, some of which are controversial even in Objectivist circles, I chose not to have Objectivism in the URL either. I certainly push Objectivism, but some of what I write is more of my own interpretation or an extension or an application of Objectivism rather than the official philosophy of Objectivism created by Ayn Rand. If I had written something like OPAR, then I would have chosen something more like Objectivism.com. The bottom line is that a URL is like a company name, and what do you want your URL name to say about your website? Do you want to continue to promote Objectivism or do you just want a meeting place not necessarily centered around Objectivism? Do you want it to be much more open (by implication) to anyone having anything to say about Ayn Rand? I would advise against this, as I think oo.net does a reasonably good job of keeping the postings at least close to Objectivism via the moderators and other participants. Changing the name will take away that incentive to do that. In other words, a name like the meetingplace.com isn't specific enough to warrant making sure that the posts at least counter anti-Objectivists who might post there. But, to me at least, since Objectivism in the URL of oo.net, I think I am justified in presenting my views according to my understanding of Objectivism, whereas a more generic URL wouldn't do that for me. It would just become yet another forum that has no ideology behind it. If I decide to make a forum out of my own website, it will be pre-moderated to insure the consistency with what I want to promote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wotan Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I like this suggestions D'Kian has offered: Objectivism Central Great minds think alike! Or, at least, some of you guys are occasionally up on my level. I vote for Objectivism Central! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertz Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 The litigious git in me wants to know who used "ObjectivismOnline" first, or who might have a trademark on it, or who might be able to file for a trademark on it based on earlier prior use. Though if you were to change it, ObjectivismCentral wouldn't be a bad choice. ~Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galileo Blogs Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I second Qwertz for the litigious approach. Have you consulted a lawyer to see if you have any claim at all to objectivismonline.com? If not, can you buy the domain? Is it being offered for sale at a reasonable price? Because of the equity you have built up, it would be better, if possible, to avoid changing the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherSetzer Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Because of the equity you have built up, it would be better, if possible, to avoid changing the name. I like the current domain name and agree that it carries considerable weight and ought not to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Mac Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I would seriously condsider NOT changing the name. This gets my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thales Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I like the idea of keeping the url as is and if you don't the word "Objectivism" should be in it, so as to make it clear it's a forum for Objectivism. Btw, it looks like ObjectivismOnline.com has been hacked and taken over. I'm disappointed they let that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avampirist Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Aside from my ideas, and out of the ones suggested by others, I really like RealityReasonRights.com. It's not imperative that Objectivism be in the URL. People find the site via search engine anyway, so you just need a good tag. You don't need to advertise it. Those who are genuinely interested will find it. Besides, I've always thought that those who don't actively read philosophy are intimidated by "ism" words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBP2009 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Aside from my ideas, and out of the ones suggested by others, I really like RealityReasonRights.com. It's not imperative that Objectivism be in the URL. People find the site via search engine anyway, so you just need a good tag. You don't need to advertise it. Those who are genuinely interested will find it. Besides, I've always thought that those who don't actively read philosophy are intimidated by "ism" words. In that vein, how about theobjectivists.com? Or realityexists.com? But I must say I like RealityReasonRights.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensorman Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 This gets my vote. I agree. I strongly advise against changing the name. There is no real disadvantage in keeping the name, that is only imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboimpala Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 www.whoisjohngalt.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 How about Galt'sGulch.com? GG.com instead of OO.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 " JohnGalt.org " is for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KindredAmy Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Hi there, This is my first post! Here are my suggestions for a new URL name: QAObjectivism.com (as in Q&A) RationalRand.com PremiseCheck.com CheckYourPremises.com I tested them, and they are not held. Perhaps I'll think of more later. Have a good day everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grames Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Do not make any changes. No matter what new name you may select, someone else may pick a very similar name for their own site. Will you change again? Will you continue to flee from competitors? Fleeing is not competing. Take the time to consider Google's page rank algorithm, and reconsider whether objectismonline.com is a threat or not. At the moment, there isn't even a page at objectivismonline.com. I see no threat, and continuing to build up links to this site gives you an insurmountable head start over any competitor. Any website good enough to compete with yours even with your head start objectively deserves its traffic and should not regarded as stealing your traffic. Just purchase the .com url when it eventually becomes available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassDragon Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 I am thinking of renaming ObjectivismOnline. The reason is that objectivismonline.com redirects to another forum, which some people have either confused with this one or assumed that there is some relationship between the two. GC now owns objectivismonline.com and it now directs to this website, so having this conversation is now pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboimpala Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Who is GC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidOdden Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Who is GC?Number 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greebo Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Who is GC? Number 1. In expanded terms - user #1: GreedyCapitalist - the forum #1 admin.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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