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I'm looking for audio books on self-help and psychology which I can download and use on my iPod. Disappointingly Dr Hurd, Dr Kenner and the ARI only offer audio books in CD format which would involve shipping costs, this is inconvenient as I live in the UK. Is there any place where I can find what I'm looking for on the internet?

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You probably already know this but http://www.audible.com offers many of Ayn Rand's books in the format you seek as well as Leonard Peikoff's book on Objectivism.

You can also find some of Nathaniel Branden's books there such as The Psychology of Self-Esteem which came almost verbatim from his articles in The Objectivist Newsletter as I understand it.

I should also mention sites like http://www.ebookmall.com/ and http://www.ebooks.com where you can download some of these books in digital formats like PDF and perhaps use text-to-speech software in conjunction with recording software to convert them to MP3 with questionable results, e.g. reading page numbers and headings, etc. you do not want.

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I neglected to mention that you should register at no cost at http://www.aynrand.org to access dozens of hours of free streaming audio and video featuring Ayn Rand and other Objectvist intellectuals. You can record these using http://www.wmrecorder.com and then convert them to iPod formats using http://www.winavi.com or http://www.ezsoftmagic.com/mp3_audio_converter.htm or http://www.boilsoft.com/rmtomp3/ or similar software.

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I neglected to mention that you should register at no cost at http://www.aynrand.org to access dozens of hours of free streaming audio and video featuring Ayn Rand and other Objectvist intellectuals.

Yes, access to them.

You can record these using http://www.wmrecorder.com and then convert them to iPod formats using http://www.winavi.com or http://www.ezsoftmagic.com/mp3_audio_converter.htm or http://www.boilsoft.com/rmtomp3/ or similar software.

Correct me if I am wrong, since I have been working many many hours today, but is this not stealing?

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Correct me if I am wrong, since I have been working many many hours today, but is this not stealing?

This has no difference in essence from recording a show on television for personal use -- not for redistribution to others -- to watch later over and over again.

However, if you reason differently :worry: , feel free not to follow my suggestions.

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However, if you reason differently :worry: , feel free not to follow my suggestions.

I think it is stealing, but I can't remember my password to the registered user page right now, but when I get off of work, I'll go to my laptop, and I will see if there are any indications there that they are not to be recorded, reproduced (of which I think they aren't supposed to be).

When I took an ARI course 2 years ago or so, I had access to recordings, but was not allowed to give the passwords out, let others listen to them, or record it, even if it was just for myself to listen to later. When the course was over, soon after the recordings were unavailable.

This has no difference in essence from recording a show on television for personal use -- not for redistribution to others -- to watch later over and over again.

I disagree that it is no different than that. I think it is copyright infringement.

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I disagree that it is no different than that. I think it is copyright infringement.

Oy! You can "think" anything you jolly well wish. The television broadcasting industry already went through this exercise decades ago when they tried, unsuccessfully, to stop the blossoming VCR industry from recording signals to tape for personal use. The courts finally ruled it as okay. Whether you agree with it or not thus becomes a moot point.

Attempting to stop private individuals from recording data streams for personal use via finger waggling and "saying so" has only slightly greater effectiveness than the king who attempted to legislate away the motions of the tides. Better simply to accept the new technology and the human urge for convenience and work with those facts. Certainly I intend to do so.

If you think I will tie myself to my PC to enjoy this material when I have means of accessing, recording, and enjoying it at my convenience while still satisfying the intent of registering me as a user of the site, you have engaged in wishful thinking.

From the WM Recorder site:

100% Legal

WM Recorder records all streaming media not protected by DRM (Digital Rights Management), and is fully compliant with all copyright laws, including the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. (Only 1% of all online video and audio is DRM protected.)

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Oy! You can "think" anything you jolly well wish.

Oh, I always do. Especially now that I am home and I just saw this on the registered users page:

All recordings copyright © 2007 Second Renaissance Inc. All rights reserved. Reproduction or linking is prohibited.

So, I'll continue to jolly well think that, and have jolly well emailed them about it. After I get a response, I will also seek permission to post some or all of their response here.

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So, I'll continue to jolly well think that, and have jolly well emailed them about it. After I get a response, I will also seek permission to post some or all of their response here.

That will be jolly well interesting. I look forward to a jolly good time reading their jolly e-mails. I hope they jolly well consult actual law and the jolly values of their jolly target audience and not just their own jolly wishes and desires. A is A.

Do you really think that their express desires to the contrary will stop people from recording to iPods the posted streaming media files for their own convenience -- to listen in their cars or while jogging or whenever they desire?

As I said, to think that amounts to wishful thinking just as someone who opposes TiVo engages in wishful thinking.

Perhaps they can also explain why WM Recorder remains in business -- claiming 100% compliance with law -- and whether they intend to mount a class action lawsuit against them.

I said it already and I will say it again:

I have registered at the site and so given them the information they desire. I click the links just as I would if I sat tied to my PC to experience the media streams. The only difference is that I download the material to my Palm Treo 680 using the aforementioned software so I can listen in my car. I do this for personal use only and not for sharing.

At this point, I have argued the issue with myself to my own satisfaction and nothing anyone says will change my mind about the rightness of my actions.

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Steve: I would add, your comments about the ARI lectures are moot points. The ARI do not want people going off, giving the lectures to their friends, since they are providing is a pay-for service and wish to be duly paid for any listening to of their speeches. As for them not wanting people to actually record the lectures, for personal use, well, that may be because they see it as a means towards actual breaking of copyright.

I don't know much about law, so I'll leave it to someone with actual facts to back up their argument, but as much as I know about copyright law, it seems that it is perfectly legal to record something from ARI, just like it is legal to copy a CD onto your computer.

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