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Gravel, a former Democratic senator from Alaska, said in an e-mail that the Democratic Party "no longer represents my vision for our great country."

"It is a party that continues to sustain war, the military-industrial complex and imperialism — all of which I find anathema to my views," he said in the e-mail in which he also asked supporters for campaign donations.

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"I look forward to advancing my presidential candidacy within the Libertarian Party, which is considerably closer to my values, my foreign policy views and my domestic views," he said.

This gives us a nice view of the Libertarian party and where they stand. Gotta love 'em huh? <_<

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What "principles" do they agree on?

That the United States has no right to take preemptive military action to defend its citizens, even if the enemy if aggressively seeking biological, chemical or nuclear weapons and is calling for the destruction of the United States.

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So, aside from the consistency of his political wrongheadedness how does one equate Democratic principals (collectivist statist and socialist) with supposed Libertarian principals (free market, overriding personal freedom, small government)?

Anyone, anyone Bhuler?

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So, aside from the consistency of his political wrongheadedness how does one equate Democratic principals (collectivist statist and socialist) with supposed Libertarian principals (free market, overriding personal freedom, small government)?

Anyone, anyone Bhuler?

We were not talking about the positions of the parties, we were speaking of the principles of the two men Paul and Gravel. Both hold altruistic principles. In addition, both hold thoroughly Marxist principles in their views of history.

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We were not talking about the positions of the parties, we were speaking of the principles of the two men Paul and Gravel. Both hold altruistic principles. In addition, both hold thoroughly Marxist principles in their views of history.

Really? I was. So now that we are both sure that I wasn't asking about the individual principals of the two men do you have a response to my question?

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So, aside from the consistency of his political wrongheadedness how does one equate Democratic principals (collectivist statist and socialist) with supposed Libertarian principals (free market, overriding personal freedom, small government)?

Anyone, anyone Bhuler?

The LP is really just a party that believes in nothing. That is how Gravel got in, that's why all their top candidates are anti-immigration, that is why the other sect of the party is mostly made up of Anarchists.

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The LP is really just a party that believes in nothing. That is how Gravel got in, that's why all their top candidates are anti-immigration, that is why the other sect of the party is mostly made up of Anarchists.

So their view of Libertarian is just an opposition to Democrat or Republican with no real founding in the political ideology of Mill, Locke or any of the rest?

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