Charles Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 British Politics is considerably more socialized than American. For instance we have just re-nationalized our railines. To any Brits using this forum: who, if at all, would you vote for and why? I have looked at the list of registered parties and can tell you that there isn't a single minority party that even resembles for instance, the Libertarian party of the US. All our minority parties are either extreme left wing - socialists/communists, single issue, or fascist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSabbath Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 I'll vote Scottish National Party because I want Scottish independence. The SNP is a leftwing party at the moment but that does not mean that it always has to be. In the past, the jibe against the SNP was that they were 'Tartan Tories, Doctors and Lawyers'. I have been doing my best to spread Capitalist ideas and Scottish independence would give us a chance to break from the Keynesian consensus which dominates Westminster politics. And also cheaper whisky as well. Two thirds of the price of Scotch in the UK is tax!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted August 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Fair enough. I personally have no concern for Scottish devolution. That and the fact that they are leftwing means I will not be voting for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSabbath Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 They have moved to the right again in recent years albeit slowly. They are in the midst of a leadership contest as we speak and we will see what happens there. Are you British? God help you if you have to pin your hopes on the Conservative party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted August 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 I am British. Predominantly English - It looks like a choice between Conservatives and not voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSabbath Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 I am British. Predominantly English - It looks like a choice between Conservatives and not voting. Still live in England? Who is your MP? What is your parliamentary seat? Mine's is a safe Labour seat at Westminster though the PR system for the Scottish Parliament makes some difference to that. I have an independant, former Labour, MSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted August 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Yes - In England for the time being. Since 1997 the MP for my area has been Paul Marsden - the infamous Labour candidate who refused to tow the party line on Iraq despite heavy whipping. He then joined the Liberal Democrats, though recently quit politics and the seat is expected to be taken by his Lib. Dem. successor. Prior to 1997 the seat was a Conservative Stronghold. European Results for West Midlands: 4 Conservative: 3 Labour: 1 Liberal Are you a member of any Objectivist Groups in London? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSabbath Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 I'm a member of the UK Objectivist yahoo group. Since I live in Central Scotland, being a member of an Objectivist group in London is not much use to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blank_frackis Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 I'd probably vote for one of the smaller parties rather than the "big 3" so to speak. As was already mentioned however, the smaller parties are generally quite extremist (scottish socialist party, bnp, UKIP etc,) however you have to take into account that were these parties ever to become more mainstream (i.e more successful) they would move more to the center. The SNP is a pretty good example of a once radical party that is now pretty centrist now that it's gathered a significant amount of support. That said I could never bring myself to vote for UKIP or the BNP as in my opinion they are so far to the right that I could never agree with any of their policies even if they did move to the center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted August 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 If it were true that an extremist party would become more centrist as it became electable it wouldn't be a great step in the right direction: The Center of British politics is someway left of the center of American politics - observe the Americans view of their politics in this forum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSabbath Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 The SNP is a pretty good example of a once radical party that is now pretty centrist now that it's gathered a significant amount of support. That said I could never bring myself to vote for UKIP or the BNP as in my opinion they are so far to the right that I could never agree with any of their policies even if they did move to the center. Once radical? The most radical thing that they ever supported was Scottish Independence. They used to be, at least the jibe said so anyway, 'Tartan Tories'. They moved to the left after that but have moved slowly back to the right since. What is 'right wing' about the Fascist BNP? The BNP would wreck the country's economy even if everyone was white and protestant as they are a hyper-protectionist party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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