eriatarka Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) He was devoutly religious - I think he dedicated all of his works to God,, not just the sacred music. Edited July 30, 2008 by eriatarka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctrl y Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) I've always wondered about this. Were his fugues written for God, or for himself? I haven't read a biography about him, so I've never known if his contatas, etc. were just to pay the bills, or if he was truly religious. I will say that my knowledge of his motivation will never change my appreciation for his music. I know that he wrote S.D.G. on his works. Soli Deo Gloria, "to the only God's glory". Then again, there were other composers that did that, so perhaps he wrote it as a sort of homage to one of them. Edited July 30, 2008 by ctrl y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) Basically, Halley says that Dagny is able to do the following: 1. Listen to the music 2. Objectively determine from the music exactly what values went into the creation of that piece 3. Compare those values to her values It is step #2 that Rand says is currently impossible. I don't think Halley wants Dagny to do step #2, exactly as expressed above. I think #2 would be: 2a. Get a certain message from the music: life is light-hearted fun, life is dramatic, etc. 2b. Respond because she gets this message 2c. Agree with the message 2d. Feel some emotion (in terms of timing, this will probably seem instantaneous, and one might have to 'work backward to work out 2a,2b,2c) Two people listening to Halley's music may both get the same message, and even agree with the message, but they could feel different emotions. Admittedly, in the typical situation, if they both get the same message and agree with the message in the same sense, then they will feel similar emotions. Halley is saying that the final emotion is not his payoff, the other two steps are. What Halley wants is steps 2b and 2c. I think that Rand's comment in "RM" is about step 2a. If someone else comes along and says that the piece of music is "sad" rather than "light-hearted", we don't know how to objectively argue for one or the other. Edited July 31, 2008 by softwareNerd Expanded a copule of points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian0918 Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) 2d. Feel some emotion (in terms of timing, this will probably seem instantaneous, and one might have to 'work backward to work out 2a,2b,2c) Now, how do you determine if you are actually "working backwards" or if you are just rationalizing? I'd say that the working backwards is currently impossible. Before you can get to 2b and 2c, don't you need to do 2a, which is the impossible step? Edited July 31, 2008 by brian0918 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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