prosperity Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Talk about doomsday: http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB123...0709638419.html An easy read, but I've never heard of the guy, anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) I've never heard of him, but his theory seems more wishful thinking than anything. Cool map, though. I doubt Tennessee would ever go with being part of a North-Eastern region. Edited January 15, 2009 by Maximus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 All your state are ours! Seriously though those 15 states that are supposed to go to Canada probably have more citizens than we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosperity Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I've never heard of him, but his theory seems more wishful thinking than anything. Cool map, though. I doubt Tennessee would ever go with being part of a North-Eastern region. I can definitely see Texas as "the Texas Rebublic", Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Ellison Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 When they're done with California, I'd love to see the Chinese trying to take over Nevada and Arkansas:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'kian Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 1) If you make predictions within a short time-frame, yo'll live to see them ridiculed and yourself discredited. 2) A "Texas Republic" is more likely to take over Mexico than the other way around. The Texas National Guard alone is more than a match for the entire Mexican armed forces. 3) If people like this worked for the KGB, the fall of the USSR seems all the more clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 2) A "Texas Republic" is more likely to take over Mexico than the other way around. The Texas National Guard alone is more than a match for the entire Mexican armed forces. You got that right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD26 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 3) If people like this worked for the KGB, the fall of the USSR seems all the more clear. LOL! Yeah, being formerly from Nebraska, I see no understanding in the idea that Nebraska would become part of Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 LOL! Yeah, being formerly from Nebraska, I see no understanding in the idea that Nebraska would become part of Canada. And who says we want it? Florida, or California maybe, after all, we've got enough cold flat places where no one wants to live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD26 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 And who says we want it? Florida, or California maybe, after all, we've got enough cold flat places where no one wants to live. :D LOL! Dude, you've got places there that are way more flat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aequalsa Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I could go along with his theory until I realized that Utah would be part of China and the hillbillies from Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas and LA would be pert of Mexico. North Dakota becoming part of Canada? Sure. New york part of Europe? No doubt. Millions of Mormons learning chinese? That's a bit of stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thales Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Regarding the professor's prediction: That's just dumb. I know that things look bleak, but things are bleaker elsewhere. However, the guy might want to check out the UK: http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/01/...protesters.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'kian Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Regarding the professor's prediction: That's just dumb. It's not even a good dystopian plot. I mean, when Robert Heinlen balkanized North America for his alst novel, "Friday," he had the good sense not to say how it came about. Now, if North Korea, Cuba or Iran were to get California, I'd say let it go. See how the limousine liberals like to live under their ideals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazariun Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I actually first encountered this guy and his prediction on 4chan of all places, to speak to the level of thinkers who give it much credence. I think this guy has no knowledge of American history and the resulting panoply of culture which has resulted from it. Even if the US did split apart I could never see Alaska going to Russia or Texas to Mexico. Now, parts of California to China, maybe... Definitely wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammon Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I could go along with his theory until I realized that Utah would be part of China and the hillbillies from Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas and LA would be pert of Mexico. Yeah, seriously, they wouldn't let the Mexican government touch them. I could see them becoming a new Confederacy of some type though. It's a huge stretch but I always imagined it would be easy for Texas to break away from the Union and make itself untouchable. All it would have to do is drive troops across the border to Louisiana and take over Barksdale Airforce Base. They'd get all the nukes located there and the B-52s needed to drop them anywhere they want. Then it would become M.A.D. for America. Also, Thomas Sowell made a similar prediction in that he said the polarization of issues in this country would lead to a bloody civil war eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'kian Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 You need a lot before a nation goes into a civil war. More so for advanced nations with good standards of living. You need a lot of people to be or feel threatened by another part of the country, not necessarily a geographical part. Look at Russia, it took the disaster of WWI coupled with a dim ruler to get a civil war going. On the other hand look at South Africa. There was an oppressive minority class running things, widespread poverty, the country was an international pariah, there were insurgent groups, and despite all that the country never got into a civil war. As far as America goes of course it could happen, but not under the present or likely future conditions. I suppose if Obama were to turn a worse than average recession intot he Great Depression II, things could get bad. More so if his party really tired to silence the opposition through things like the "Fairness" Doctrine. Even then, and even though republicans are more likely to own guns, I doubt civil war would be anywhere near the likely solutions considered, much less near the top. I really can't think of a plausible scenario for a second USCW, much less one next year. I'll see what I can come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD26 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 As far as America goes of course it could happen, but not under the present or likely future conditions. I suppose if Obama were to turn a worse than average recession intot he Great Depression II, things could get bad. Agreed. It would take a lot to make something happen. The Great Depression did not lead to any civil war. Plenty of people were feeding at the government trough, so they were happy and weren't necessarily motivated to rebel. Others saw themselves as the heroes to their own lives. They moved, started businesses, failed, tried again, shoveled sh*t, what ever. They were too busy continuing to keep moving, again, to consider rebelling. Usually, those things require some kind so spark, and some people motivated to make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 It's obvious this guy dosn't have a clue about regional dynamics in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD26 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 It's obvious this guy dosn't have a clue about regional dynamics in the US. Yeah, I remember cutting up the world like that in fifth grade. It's not the game of Risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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