Bastian Hayek Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I am currently in a discussion with a Green about "Freedom from...". He says that establishing such freedom from need, hunger etc. would not necessitate force as everybody profited from government infrastructure and other ressources. Does one first have to advocate for the dissolution of government infrastructure programs and education etc. before one can go further to argue against such "freedom from"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidV Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Before you can argue for anything, you need to define "freedom." It's impossible to advocate socialism while holding a correct definition of that word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastian Hayek Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I would rather say his definition of force is wrong. I wrote back that I can't see where someone who profits from infrastructure and education entered a contract that says government is allow to tax him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitalism Forever Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 He says that establishing such freedom from need, hunger etc. would not necessitate force as everybody profited from government infrastructure and other ressources. Yeah. Capitalism does free people from hunger etc., it does not involve force, and everybody profits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-C Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Prosperity is not the motive of altruism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peripeteia Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) Bastian - When talking to the Green, it is essential that you both understand what the other is saying. More often than not, two people use the same word (such as 'freedom' or 'altruism') to define two different concepts. Edited September 2, 2009 by Peripeteia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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