Amaroq Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 (edited) http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/...n-for-congress/ I don't know if this is real or not. But either way, for amusement's sake, I want to see this happen. xD I don't necessarily care if the corp wins. I just want to see the publicity stunt and all the uproar it creates. EDIT: Oops, I wanted to post this in current events. Edited February 4, 2010 by Amaroq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert J. Kolker Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/...n-for-congress/ I don't know if this is real or not. But either way, for amusement's sake, I want to see this happen. xD I don't necessarily care if the corp wins. I just want to see the publicity stunt and all the uproar it creates. EDIT: Oops, I wanted to post this in current events. A corporation is neither a natural born nor a naturalized citizen, therefore it is not eligible to hold office. Since corporations are not born (as are human persons) their ages cannot be ascertained as your age or mine is. Bob Kolker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanite1018 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 A corporation is neither a natural born nor a naturalized citizen, therefore it is not eligible to hold office. Since corporations are not born (as are human persons) their ages cannot be ascertained as your age or mine is. Bob Kolker Well, they are "born" in that they are founded. A the Supreme Court stated they have a right to free speech because they are simply a group organized by many citizens, and thus have all the rights that they have to speak, etc. So I'm not certain that they cannot. Also, their CEO, and Board of Directors all do have ages, as well as do their stockholders. So since the people who control the company almost certainly are over the age of 25, as are the majority of shareholders, it isn't inconceivable that they may be considered to have the right to hold office. More importantly, I see no reason why a corporation might not run its own candidate for public office, financing his campaign, and maintain him on the payroll while he is in office (unless this is illegal, though I think it may simply be looked down upon, not sure). Even if it is illegal, he can simply leave to go to the job, and then come back to his original position at the company at the end of his tenure in office. No matter what, this is amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalistSwine Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I am a bit confused on the objectivist position on this via the free speech thing among other things. Could someone point me to an explanation on the details of this from an Objectivist perspective? Not specifically this situation, but if corporations should be treated as human beings (i.e. citizens) with rights fleshed out appropriately and so forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgoist Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 A corporation is neither a natural born nor a naturalized citizen, therefore it is not eligible to hold office. Since corporations are not born (as are human persons) their ages cannot be ascertained as your age or mine is. Bob Kolker Don't need to be naturally born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandros Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I am a bit confused on the objectivist position on this via the free speech thing among other things. Could someone point me to an explanation on the details of this from an Objectivist perspective? Not specifically this situation, but if corporations should be treated as human beings (i.e. citizens) with rights fleshed out appropriately and so forth. http://forum.ObjectivismOnline.com/index.p...rate+personhood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert J. Kolker Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Don't need to be naturally born. I meant as in born of a human mother. A flesh and blood person. Can the qualifications of office pertain to an entity whose existence is a legal artifact, rather than a natural fact? Bob Kolker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandros Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) I meant as in born of a human mother. A flesh and blood person. Can the qualifications of office pertain to an entity whose existence is a legal artifact, rather than a natural fact? Bob Kolker So you mean I can't run for office because my mother is a cyborg? Curse my father and his robot lust! Edited February 14, 2010 by Alexandros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aequalsa Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I wonder if this would present a conflict of interest between the fiduciary responsibility of the company and the the oath of office they take. In other words, if a pavement company were voting on a roads based infrastructure bill, how could they vote without a serious conflict of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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