Steve D'Ippolito Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 I have this sneaking suspicion that even seeing all of part one will not put all the fears to rest (assuming it doesn't outright confirm them), if only because there will be much left unsaid in part I, just as in the book where the characters were still trying to discover what was going on... and why. Similarly at the end of part I we (already knowing the correct answer, of course) won't be able to tell whether the "why" yet to be given is the _correct_ why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musenji Posted February 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Steve that sounds not at all like a sneaking suspicion--much more like conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soth Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 New clip released: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D'Ippolito Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 On the whole l Iike this clip. Lillian is portrayed quite well I think. One update to the current day, Rearden offers $100K instead of $10K to Weaselboy Phillip. Inflation, you know. On second thought why did I cross out "Weaselboy"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian0918 Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I really liked the clip. It definitely gives me more hope for the whole film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 This one was definitely better than the rest I have seen. Hope springs eternal I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whYNOT Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Entirely selfishly, I would prefer that this is a terrible movie interpretation of Atlas, instead of a 'safe', and palatable one. Audiences should leave the theatres in a state of shock and hope, as if they'd read the book. But I'm hard to please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philosopher Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 "Making of" videos That's a rather benign version of human evil the screenwriter has there, he thinks it all results unintentionally from trying to do good. I think Ayn Rand said once that Americans had a problem grasping that there were just simply evil people out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 New clip released: That actually looked pretty good. I don't think it's flawless but it raises my hope of this movie being watchable. Rearden even seems to be well casted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc K. Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 New clip released: Here is perhaps a more "official" site showing the same scene. (Thanks to HBL) We can't expect ever to see a perfect movie made of AS and probably not even an excellent version but this clip does give me hope that the movie will exceed OK and may even be GOOD!!! (Don't get your hopes too high). I thought the scene was really well acted by everyone involved. The subtleties of emotion and emphasis of speech are spot on. The wording is even good!! Wow, can you imagine if this film was nominated for an Academy Award!!! How much that would piss off liberals and altruists and how much more interest is would spark in the book!!! (Too many exclamation points, I better settle down and come back to reality) Also, check out the comments -- much better than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian0918 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Here is perhaps a more "official" site showing the same scene. (Thanks to HBL) That is their official site, but it's just linking to their YouTube channel, which is what Soth did. The movie has a very limited release, so I don't think the members of the Academy will even hear about it, except derisively on the Huffington Post. Edited February 23, 2011 by brian0918 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalistSwine Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Wow, can you imagine if this film was nominated for an Academy Award!!! How much that would piss off liberals and altruists and how much more interest is would spark in the book!!! Consider who the people are that tend to be part of the Academy Award process. Edited February 23, 2011 by CapitalistSwine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D'Ippolito Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 The movie has a very limited release, so I don't think the members of the Academy will even hear about it, except derisively on the Huffington Post. Unless they are the people posting the same six derogatory comments over and over again every time someone does something favorable to Ayn Rand on Youtube. As soon as a comment disappears onto page five or so of the comments, someone else (a different name at least) posts the same thing, verbatim. I am pretty sure it's a coordinated campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptnChan Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 The same youtube channel that has the trailer has released a 3 minute scene of Rearden giving the bracelet to Lillian. It looks ALOT more promising than the trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalistSwine Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 You mean the one posted in post #28? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d'Anconia Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hm... is anyone here from Europe or better yet from Slovenia? Becouse I'm wondering (and doubting) that I'll ever get to see it here Well if anyone's from around here any info would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musenji Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Hm... is anyone here from Europe or better yet from Slovenia? Becouse I'm wondering (and doubting) that I'll ever get to see it here Well if anyone's from around here any info would be great! I don't know about Slovenia, but lots of people here are from the internet and can point you toward Amazon.com for when it comes out on DVD (pretty sure Amazon will ship anywhere). ..Ah, boydstun beat me to noting that it will eventually be available on DVD. ah well. Point being, you will get to see it! Just not in the theater perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelconservative Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Hoping against hope that this is a good movie that is an honest recreation of the book, portraying the characters accurately. Even if there is no philosophy, it should still be able to generate a positive, capitalist sense of life and hopefully inspire some people to actually read the book. I doubt it will be as good as it should be, but I'll be happy as long as it is a good movie and not a hack job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Link Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 To help keep things in perspective, ask yourself if you've ever seen a movie made from a book you've already read that you thought was as good as the book. Below I've listed three movies I saw after I read the book (I'm sure there are others, but they don't immediately come to mind), along with my answer to the question whether the book was as good as the movie. I loved the books and am glad I saw the movies (in fact I plan to see them again!), but the movies were not as good as the book. The Fountainhead - NO Fantastic Voyage - NO We The Living - NO Please post your list of movies you've seen after you read the book along with your answers to the question whether the book was as good as the movie. John Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 To help keep things in perspective, ask yourself if you've ever seen a movie made from a book you've already read that you thought was as good as the book.After seeing a few movies from books, one realizes that the book has to be condensed. Once one accepts this, I think the question is not "was it as good as the book", but rather "was it as good a movie as the book was a book". Or even more simply: "was this a good movie?" The Fountainhead - NO Fantastic Voyage - NO We The Living - NO Of the two of those that I've seen, I loved We the Living, and was disappointed with Fountainhead, particularly with Gary Cooper who turned out to be an awful choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Link Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I loved We the Living, and was disappointed with Fountainhead, particularly with Gary Cooper who turned out to be an awful choice. I agree about Gary Cooper, and yet I find the movie inspiring, despite all its flaws. John Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve D'Ippolito Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) Fantastic Voyage - NO In this case the book was actually made from the movie. (Your evaluation of their relative merits is good though.) Isaac Asimov was brought into the process after the script was ready, and he had many arguments over a lot of the stupidities of the script. (For example the submarine should have expanded when the people did, even though it was eaten by a corpuscle. Also cell membranes should have seemed many yards thick to the shrunken people.) He did what he could while writing the book, and worked fast enough that the book came out before the movie it was based on did. Asimov was offered the chance to fly out to LA to meet the cast and turned it down as he did not like to fly (I believe he was phobic but I don't believe he ever outright said so himself). He certainly didn't recognize any of the names. When he saw the movie for the first time he realized that the only thing worse than flying was not getting to meet Racquel Welch in person. Edited February 25, 2011 by Eiuol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Link Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) In this case the book was actually made from the movie. Very interesting! (Your evaluation of their relative merits is good though.) Isaac Asimov was brought into the process after the script was ready, and he had many arguments over a lot of the stupidities of the script. (For example the submarine should have expanded when the people did, even though it was eaten by a corpuscle.. I think that's one of the absurdities I noticed when I saw the movie. John Link Edited February 25, 2011 by John Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d'Anconia Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I don't know about Slovenia, but lots of people here are from the internet and can point you toward Amazon.com for when it comes out on DVD (pretty sure Amazon will ship anywhere). ..Ah, boydstun beat me to noting that it will eventually be available on DVD. ah well. Point being, you will get to see it! Just not in the theater perhaps. I guess I'll have to wait a bit longer then till 15th of april then. Ah, well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENikolai Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Here's a few movie reviews. Review of premiere event and review of movie by John Sexton from Big Hollywood Review of movie by David Kelly Review of movie by Matt Welch from Reason Magazine Review of movie by Barbara Branden Edited February 27, 2011 by ENikolai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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