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Herman Cain: Spying on Americans Is Okay, But Not Assassinating Them


I can't believe people take this guy seriously. He clearly has no idea what he is talking about half the time when you start getting deeper into the issues & not the first time: "I think it's one of our founding fathers who said - I think it might have been Jefferson, it might have been Lincoln...I'm not sure" The man is good at making pragmatic talking points that most people can agree with i.e. he is a good public speaker and interviewer, thats seems to be about it. He was on an MSM interview the other day, and he was asked about his position on Israel. I caught it on the tv while I was flipping around. He basically said he supported Israel but he could not give any actual reason why. My dog supports Israel too, but he seems to know why to the same extent as Mr. Cain. He also seems to be completely oblivious to the war on drugs issue, or is otherwise afraid he will lose potential GOP votes by going that route.

If this man actually knew what he was talking about, and didn't have aspirations to abuse the power of the executive branch, he would have stated that we should nix the Patriot Act and revert back to United States Signals Intelligence Directive 18 (USSID 18).

I find it interesting he starts off with this, "That's why we have our court system, and that's why we have our laws." but then states he supports the Patriot Act and that we shouldn't worry about the "10%" that is of dubious constitutionality. My question to Mr. Cain then is, is this going to be his attitude on other legislation?

I am 22 years old and yet half the time I almost feel as if I am more qualified than half of these candidates not in experience obviously, but sometimes in knowledge, and very often when it comes to respect for the American rule of law and our constitutional rights. This is freakin' sad. What the hell.

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Herman Cain grew up in Atlanta, Georgia with loving parents and little else. His father worked three jobs—as a janitor, a barber and a chauffeur—and his mother was a domestic worker. Even though these jobs required hard work and little glamour, his parents knew this life was better than the dirt farms upon which they grew up. They also knew that this hard work was the key to achieving their American Dreams.

Herman’s parents had two dreams. First, they wanted to own their own house. Secondly, they wanted both of their children to graduate from college. During the segregation era in the Deep South, these aspirations might have seemed lofty, but they knew that if they kept their faith in God, faith in themselves and faith in the greatest country on the Earth, they could achieve.

The first dream was realized in a modest brick house on Albert Street in Atlanta, Georgia. After years of saving from his many jobs, Herman’s father surprised the whole family, even his wife, by purchasing a home for their family. The second dream was realized when Herman graduated from Morehouse College with a dual degree in math and physics in 1967. His brother, Thurman, would go on to graduate from Morris Brown College.

Inspired by the work ethic and character of his parents, Herman continued his education by earning his Master’s degree in computer science from Purdue University while working full-time developing fire control systems for ships and fighter planes for the Department of the Navy. Though Herman enjoyed using his talents as a civilian employee for the Navy, he gravitated towards the culture of business.

Herman returned to his home of Atlanta to begin working as a computer systems analyst for the Coca-Cola Company. After considerable success at Coca-Cola, he moved to the Pillsbury Company. Within a short period of time, Herman rose to position of Vice President. Although the comforts of a corner office on the 31st floor of a majestic corporate building seemed satisfying, Herman knew that he needed a challenge.

He became the regional vice president of Pillsbury’s Burger King division. This meant starting from the “ground up,” dodging grease fires and broiling hamburgers. Herman was assigned to lead a low performing region of 450 of their restaurants. Within three years, it became the best performing region in the company.

Energized by overcoming the many obstacles of his job at Burger King, Herman took on the biggest challenge of his career. He accepted the call to become the President and CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, a company that was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. In just 14 months, Herman returned Godfather’s to profitability and he led his management team to a buyout of the company.

His professional successes garnered the respect and admiration of industry peers who named him the President of the National Restaurant Association. Under Herman’s administration, the group grew significantly and began to lobby for the interests of America’s restaurateurs and small business owners.

In 1994, as head of the National Restaurant Association, he had the opportunity to speak with President Clinton during a nationally televised town hall meeting. Here, Herman challenged the President regarding the impact on businesses if his health care overhaul proposal were passed. President Clinton attempted to assure him and the millions of viewers watching at home that his legislation would not harm American business owners and their employees.

Herman was skeptical. “Quite honestly Mr. President, your calculations are incorrect,” he said. “In the competitive marketplace, it simply doesn’t work that way.” His words echoed across America, and Newsweek named Herman Cain the primary saboteur of Hillarycare.

Through these and other appearances on behalf of the National Restaurant Association, Herman began working with business leaders across all sectors of the American economy. This led to his acceptance of a position on the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and he was subsequently elected their chairman. In this role, he analyzed economic conditions in the region and notified the Federal Reserve of how their policies should respond.

Most recently, he hosted a radio talk show, “The Herman Cain Show,” on Atlanta’s WSB 750 AM/ 95.5 FM. He serves as a regular contributor on several broadcast networks and as a keynote speaker at conferences and events around the nation.

Despite the many professional commitments of his life, Herman continues to enjoy most the time spent with family and friends. As his children got married and had their own children, he knew that he had an extraordinary obligation to do what he could to make this a safe and prosperous nation for them. The paramount joys in his life are his wife, Gloria, his children and his grandchildren.

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He is vague and unspecific on most of his issue pages, and unlike most candidates, he does not have a section on the drug war, which is a major drain on the economy, makes the border violence much, much worse, and is unjust around the board. I may have missed it, maybe it's tucked into one of the other issue pages, but his lack of specificity on so many things is what is worrying me the most right now, especially since he has shown he has questionable integrity with respect to the rule of law on several accounts. None of the other candidates are so vague on their issue positions of him, at least to my knowledge. It seems like he is more trying to ride the popularity wave based on pragmatic and vague policy points that most people can agree with. I guess we will have to wait and see if this continues as the election process goes on. We will find out fairly quickly.

He has also changed his mind on some odd subjects. For instance, the other day he came out stating he would put Muslims in his Cabinet, and then on...the 24th believe, changed his mind, stating no Muslims will be in his Cabinet. There is one other issue I am aware of him changing his mind on in quick fashion to a more GOP friendly stance, but I cannot remember what it is at this moment. I may be more comfortable with him down the road, but right now he makes me uncomfortable, I don't fell like I can trust him to not end up being more status quo, even if he is less status quo than people like Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, etc.

Some other information for those that don't know much about him that may be relevant to you:

1.He's the former chairman of the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.

This is something he proudly proclaims on his campaign website. He is an ardent defender of the Fed, and has claimed that there is "no need to audit the Federal Reserve." He has gone back and forth on this auditing thing, so I am not sure what his official stance is at this moment.

2. He wholeheartedly supported TARP in 2008.

His response to naysayers, or "free market purists" as he called us? "As we say in the South, y’all hush!" Classy.

3. His position on war powers is contrary to a Constitutional understanding of the subject.

His position is: he would not involve the U.S. military in war unless three criteria were met. 1. There was a clear objective. 2. There was a verifiable U.S. interest in question. 3. There was a clear path to victory. From the article above, "My thoughts are less on whether he has the authority to do what he's doing than why is he doing what he's doing. Clarity of what he's doing and why is more important than whether or not he has the authority to do it."

4. He backed Mitt Romney in 2008. Even Juan McAmnesty is less of a socialist than Romney.

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Herman Cain is the best candidate right now to my knowledge. I would vote for him.
On his web site, he comes across as quite a typical Republican. However, I haven't heard his radio-show, and haven't heard him talk more than a few minutes. So, I'm curious: what makes him different from the typical 'fairly middle of road" Republican? Edited by softwareNerd
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