Alex Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 Pop-ups, everyone gets them or at least alot of us do. I don't know much about the technicalities of it so correct me if I'm wrong. Programs can be downloaded onto my computer from outside when I go to a site without my consent and these programs can lay inside my hard drive and send 'pop-ups'. Would that be an act violating privacy and property rights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitalism Forever Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 You mean the "worms" which crawl into your computer while you are connected to the Internet? Of course they are a violation. While technically they are different from viruses, morally they are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidV Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 As a technical note, the great majority of pop-ups are ads display by particular websites and should not be confused with worms. The great majority of “worms” come with ad-ware that you knowingly download – at least if you read license agreements and security warnings. There are very few “worms” that actually install themselves without your permission (usually spread by email), and they rarely show ads. Their most common use is to send spam. So, while running software on your computer without your permission is certainly a violation of your property rights (I don’t think there is any “right to privacy”), chances are that you consented to 99.99% of the pop-ups that you see on your pc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 There are 3 distinct cases: 1) I, as a web developer, decide to include an advertisement, as a banner or pop-up, in my site's content. When you decide to visit my site and access my content, you also access these advertisements. This method is used by many webmasters to fund their sites through banner exchanges and other advertisements. This is 100% legitimate. 2) You download a trial, demo, shareware or free application, which upon installation also install a software which will open pop-ups at random intervals. The additional ad-ware software is mentioned in the EULA or other licensing agreement of the software, but since the users almost never read these, they don't know they just accepted to have pop-up active randomly and have their machine's resources used by these processes. This is also legitimate, but barely. The information regarding the additional software IS in the licensing agreement. Unfortunatelly, the users don't read that, or the software company goes to great lenghts to obfuscate the license making it impossible for non-lawyers to read. This borders on fraud. 3) The last case is that when someone used force (security breach) or fraud (mimicking sites, man-in-the-middle attacks, etc) to get you to do something from him, unwillingly, such as look at advertisements, send spam or steal or data. This is 100% completly wrong and it's unexcusable, since no agreement between the 2 parts involved exist. -------------- To conclude, if you are getting lots of pop-up showing up at random times you must have recently installed some shareware software, piggy-backed by a ad-aware application. Removing the offensing ad-ware is easy, with Spybot-S&D or Ad-Aware, but be warned, since the shareware/freeware/demo/trial you initially installed might not work without its parasite. If you want to block pop-ups generated by site authors, you can use a pop-up blocker, such as that provided by the Google Toolbar, but I think it is immoral to get just a part site's content, without the ads, so that the author won't get hes money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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